repairing a board, I have some questions

[skrobo]

ok, i should know the answer to the first question, but I don't

1)is a victoria ultra-vac polyester or epoxy
2)is there any way to glue polyester foam back together as strong as or stronger than it would be in one piece?
3) why do skimboards break?
4) will 5 fiberglass stringers 1/4" wide not make a board unbreakable?

i think thats all, in case you are wondering I broke my board doing a little 360 pop shuv-it and I am going to fix it, I already started by cutting off the delaminated chunk of the top and cutting 5 slots into the board in various places for the stringers.

[Luff]

Pulling those twenty foot sprays must be pretty brutal on the board.

[vicskim76]

you broke an ultra by doing a 3 shuv. wow how old was it?

[vicskim76]

Pulling those twenty foot sprays must be pretty brutal on the board.

yeah dude those texas waves'll do a number on a board

[skimminOB]

3) why do skimboards break?

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha.

[skrobo]

you broke an ultra by doing a 3 shuv. wow how old was it?

a year old... I messed it up the other day on an air, landed funny, it popped, but still rode and felt fine, went 2 or 3 sessions after that, and it broke on the shuv... wasn't even anything special. I was surprised it broke on what it did, I wasn't very high or anything.

[SDSkim]

was there like a double over head swell u were riding

[skrobo]

ehh it was an AWESOME day(2 foot at the most), but seriously, what is it made of?
i need to know

[SDSkim]

steel and glass

[vicskim76]

you NEED to know? or you WANT to know?...now you're just lyin to yourself

[skrobo]

screw it, i knew you guys were too obsessed with your massive breaks and $400 skimboards to give decent advice.

[lovestoskim]

if you glass the broken board right, you wont need the use of stringers. vic ultra's have polyurethane blanks and are glassed with polyester resin. take all the damaged glass (delaminated) off. i mix up a putty consisting of aerosil and polyester lam resin, the consistency should be the same as peanut butter. next, i stand the board up against a chair (anything to help it stand straight up and down will do). what you want to do is put the two pieces together and run a strip of masking tape from nose to tail, this should hold the pieces together. now stand back and adjust the rocker so that the board is once again straight, you adjust the rocker by pulling and repositioning the tape. let the resin kick. after the resin has kicked be very gentle with it (it is still weak), now you want to mix up some more putty (slightly thinner though) and you want to fill whatever voids are left. if you have a grinder or sander of sorts, it would make the next step easier. you want to grind all around the break, top and bottom. this makes the surface more suitable for the glass you are about to add. make sure everything is smooth and there are no really high or low spots. when the area is faired wipe it with acetone to clean it. now i would use two layers of 6 oz glass on each side of the break. you want to lay the glass over the break and have it overlap onto "good" glass. after the resin has kicked smooth out the overlapped glass with 60 grit sandpaper until it blends together with the "good" spots. then sand on top of the glass lightly with 100 grit paper (i do this to minimize the appearance of weave, not necessary). sand out any heavy scratches with 120 grit and then wipe the area down with acetone. you are now ready for a hotcoat. get a hold of some polyester sanding resin, if you cannot get a hold of that you can make your own by using polyester laminating resin and a small amount of surfacing agent. hotcoat the deck first. when you lay on your hotcoat, use long and straight strokes all the way across the board. cross stroke and then clean your brush off. now come back with your brush perpendicular to your cross strokes and lightly drag the tips of your brush across the surface. let the hotcoat cure and flatten out. sand any drips of resin off of the bottom that may have dripped down from the top. take some 3/4" masking tape and tape along your rail, leaving about 1/16th of an inch of tape higher than your rail. make sure the tape is on good and repeat the same process as on the deck. make sure to keep a bead of resin on your edges of the tape. when it cures its time to sand. fair the area out with 150 grit and move to 220, 320, 400 wet, and if you feel like it, use a grey 3m scotchbrite pad and some car wax to buff.

....if this sounds like a ton of work, it is. this is the reason why i turn away people that want me to fix their broken boards. if they insist on a fix i charge 200 bucks and make them set the rocker. personally, i think you would be better of mowing your neighbors lawns and saving up some money for a new board. good luck with the repair if you attempt it. the materials will probably cost you about a hundred bucks.

[gulfcoastskimmer]

Yeah probably just save and buy a new board.

[samcollett]

screw it, i knew you guys were too obsessed with your massive breaks and $400 skimboards to give decent advice.

right...that wouldn't have anything to do with you being completely lame, would it?

by the way, i am obsessed with my massive break.

[skrobo]

Yeah probably just save and buy a new board.

nah
I may buy one anyways, but i don't want to spend that much $$...

I'm putting stringers in it because I havn't done much fiberglass work and I am not sure of how well I will be able to glass it. I am going to run the stringers first, they are about 1/4"wide and about 1/16" from going to the bottom. I am going to make it stronger. If i just repair it normallly it won't be as strong and I'll just break it again.
it shouldn't have broken in the first place...

[skrobo]

right...that wouldn't have anything to do with you being completely lame, would it?

by the way, i am obsessed with my massive break.

you don't even know me dude, you know very little about me. if you don't believe anything I say then just don't respond to my posts. grow up

[Steve]

ok, i should know the answer to the first question, but I don't

1)is a victoria ultra-vac polyester or epoxy
2)is there any way to glue polyester foam back together as strong as or stronger than it would be in one piece?
3) why do skimboards break?
4) will 5 fiberglass stringers 1/4" wide not make a board unbreakable?

i think thats all, in case you are wondering I broke my board doing a little 360 pop shuv-it and I am going to fix it, I already started by cutting off the delaminated chunk of the top and cutting 5 slots into the board in various places for the stringers.

1) polyester
2) No.
3) because your in Texas
4) nothing will
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VOLCANO REVIEWS

[gulfcoastskimmer]

If you are inexperienced at doing all this fibergalss work a new board would honestly be your best bet. I'm really trying to help you out.

[beachbum]

nah
I may buy one anyways, but i don't want to spend that much $$...

I'm putting stringers in it because I havn't done much fiberglass work and I am not sure of how well I will be able to glass it. I am going to run the stringers first, they are about 1/4"wide and about 1/16" from going to the bottom. I am going to make it stronger. If i just repair it normallly it won't be as strong and I'll just break it again.
it shouldn't have broken in the first place...

youre gunna be paying about half the price of a new foamie, or almost the cost of a lower end board. i would make a lil extra money and get a board that is new. With you skills in fiberglass work, which probably arent TOO high, the board will never be as strong as it was.

Why do boards break? because they hit a wave at the wrong angle or people land on them wrong (like you did). No board is indestructible. The best $400sumtin dollar carbon boards break too.

[skrobo]

hmm
lame
uhm its not going to cost me much of anything. I have most of the stuff I need.

[gulfcoastskimmer]

Well then Mr. Pro-boardmaker go at it and make the best, most indestructible board ever made! You should probably start your own company some day.

[SDSkim]

dude just use carbon fiber

[Luff]

frack that, use steel.

[ZapBulletRider]

Pulling those twenty foot sprays must be pretty brutal on the board.

nobody even gave props to luff for this pull from the archives

[flskim112]

Pulling those twenty foot sprays must be pretty brutal on the board.

Dude it was on a 3 inch wave, it cant be that hard.

[flskim112]

screw it, i knew you guys were too obsessed with your massive breaks and $400 skimboards to give decent advice.

as long as you can do 15ft. sprays off 3 inch waves there's no need to buy a $400 board right?

[lovestoskim]

stringers are a bad idea....

[skrobo]

stringers are a bad idea....

how so?

[beachbum]

because your board is going to fall apart on the next sesh.

[DanZO]

hes BACK

[samcollett]

you don't even know me dude, you know very little about me. if you don't believe anything I say then just don't respond to my posts. grow up

dude maybe you could try to spray me from there or something. i mean where i live is about 550 miles away from you, but i'm sure you would have no problem throwing one that far.

[flskim112]

dude maybe you could try to spray me from there or something. i mean where i live is about 550 miles away from you, but i'm sure you would have no problem throwing one that far.

he would suck if thats the farthest he could get

[skrobo]

because your board is going to fall apart on the next sesh.

the stringers aren't going to be full length.
I'm making them tomorrow morning. hopefully it works 1/2 decent.

[skrobo]

he would suck if thats the farthest he could get

yeah i know I suck, doesn't paulo throw one all the way to china or something?

i can't believe you guys remember that whole 15 ft spray thing. Believe it if you want, its BS I can't throw a 15 ft spray on a 3" wave. thats pretty much impossible. now a 5' spray on a 1 ft wave is more like it, ever heard of exaggeration?

[lovestoskim]

how exactly do yoy intend on making these stringers? fiberglass rod? how do you intend on inserting them, by routing strips through your board? i wouldnt mess with the good parts of your already broken board....especially if you are inexperienced at major ding repair and basic glassing, hotcoating, sanding. the stringers will not only be a bitch to put in but may possibly weaken your repair if not done properly (i know you are not able of doing such a job your first try out). trust me on this...dont do the repair with the stringers. i wouldnt even waste time and money on the board, its a cheap board to begin with.