Is epoxy worth it?

[autonomous]

I'm buying a new vic poly and I'm undecied on if I should go epoxy or not

[ZapBulletRider]

yes * 10000

I don't have skimboard specific experience but in every other capacity that I've worked w/ resin (skateboards, surfboards), the answer is without a doubt, YES

[Teddy Hartford]

they last alot longer. so yes.

[myusernamewastaken]

indeed you should

[didj prophet]

according to slotstik, no epoxy is not worth it and polyester is better.........

according to everyone else on the planet, including myself, yes, epoxy is better and worth it

...not to badmouth slotstik to you slotty lovers, i like the way they ride, but i still cant get over reading that FSM article and hearing him defend polyester over epoxy

[TheRealVortex]

i like poly over epoxy. easier to work with i think. i loved m y slutstik and probly will be my next board. heard hes doing double carbon now?

[myusernamewastaken]

yea but double carbon is expensive as hell

[ZapBulletRider]

i like poly over epoxy. easier to work with i think.

my ass. Epoxy is no more difficult than poly, if you want longer pot time go w/ a slower hardener. Not to mention it's a LOT less toxic.

[didj prophet]

well i cant really comment on which is easier to work with as i have little to no experience working with any resin (other then weed resin), but even if polyester is easier to work with, it doesnt change the fact that it gives the board less structural integrity then epoxy, and since im not making the board, i will stick with epoxy

[SteveTaylor]

you guys saying polyester is better are fracking morons.

[buca de bepo]

what about vinylester?

[TheRealVortex]

zbr i have worked with epoxy. i dont like personally. the stuff i have worked with sucked. but then again i built hardtops for sport fishers and big yatchs. 2 part and it was a bitch to mix

[ZapBulletRider]

2 part? So is polyester! It's the same thing, you have a resin and a hardener. What did you use? I've used West and MAS, I found both to be the same or easier to work w/ than polyester. You can get fast, med, and slow hardeners and even mix & match to customize pot time.

[MaloSkimmer]

Ken what size batches were you mixing? Must have been big slow cure batches. Gallons + hey? That is totaly different than what goes on in the skim or surf ind.

I have never understood how people think epoxy it is harder to use than Polyester. Yes, you have to messure the two parts propperly. Yes, in Fla. most of the time you have to use Med. or slow hardners, because of the heat out side. Yes, a min of 4 hrs untill it cures enough to move a project kinda sucks.

On the other side. It wets out glass much easier than poly. Try wetting out 1208 or 1808 biax with polyester, it's alot more work. 4oz or 6oz is so easy to work with anyway. Your neibors don't know every time you mix a bach of resin. I could go on, but no.

Only thing I don't like about it. Which is my fault 100% is I can not mix up ultra small batches of epoxy for repairs. I use a areospace grade epoxy that is mixed 2:1.... Sense I do not have propper messuring tools that would allow me to mix by weight. I'm stuck mixing a min. of 3 oz batches. Doesn't sound like alot but it is way more than you need for most simple repairs...

Yeah spend the extra money of the epoxy or just a buy a board from a company that only offers epoxy. Even though Slots construction is the best of the Poly Skimboard World.

[ZapBulletRider]

what he said.

[Aaron Peluso]

i like poly over epoxy. easier to work with i think. i loved m y slutstik and probly will be my next board. heard hes doing double carbon now?

in two threads you have claimed your next board as a slotstik and exile and a zap. hence my bad feedback on your rep.

[Aaron Peluso]

man I feel better now.

[Teddy Parker]

What are everybody's thoughts on carbon. I'm doing a writeup on it and I would like some quotes and shit from here. Anybody?

[BART]

i prefer carbon, fiberglass flexes too much for a big guy. a stiffer board is less forgiving, but maintains speed through the turn better.

p.s. read the forum rules kris

[ZapBulletRider]

I've ridden 2 carbon boards (M Paulo, M Zap Comp) for a total of about 15 waves. My next board will be carbon and I will NEVER go back.

[MaloSkimmer]

O-yeah, we have Eglass, Sglass, carbon/sglass, carbon/eglass, and now DOUBLE CARBON hahahahahahaha!!!!

[Aaron Peluso]

due to mis-information and cheapness of some other manufacturers we now somewhat routinely get requests for double carbon boards, meaning a sheet of carbon on each side instead of just one.

But all reputable manufacturers already put carbon on both sides on the standard models, including us.

[Teddy Parker]

Can I quote your posts on Carbon in an article I'm doing? Thanks.

[autonomous]

some vics only have carbon on the bottom

[Aaron Peluso]

Autonomous - IF thats true, I laugh.

Teddy, as long as you dont quote me out of context or anything...

[Harrison Welsh]

yeah i think carbon is a million times worth it. Its stronger, and definitely lighter. Since skimboards are so small and just a little variation can change the weight its not super easy to compare between boards, but surfboards are amazing to compare. My dad recently moved onto epoxy boards, they are like a quarter the weight, and are so so so much stronger and last him so long.

i think that theyre a lot stronger for their weight, and i think its the main reason exile is so big so quick, they have super light boards that seem magically stronger than everyone else at the same time, and its because they go cien por ciento carbon.

[idrathrbskimmin]

Autonomous - IF thats true, I laugh.

I think it is cause one of my boards is a vic carbon and on the top of it you can't see any carbon showing through like you can sometimes on the rails. But you can see the carcon on the bottom.

[TheRealVortex]

aaron u didnt hear? im buying all 3.

[didj prophet]

why are you buying three skimboards?

you know there's starving kids in ethiopia that dont have any skimboards, why not buy two for them?

[ZapBulletRider]

because they can't eat them.

[Doctor Delicious]

hahahah zbr....

To tell you the truth. Epoxy is lighter than polyester, but i really dont mind the slottie that i have right now being polyester. It seems to wear slower than all my other boards.

[TheRealVortex]

ive used the 2 part epoxy used on boats.i think its a 2-1 mix. red is the 1 part and the white is the 2 part. i believe it was.

[TheRealVortex]

fast dry expoy. took 15 minutes to mix a big batch working it toghter and u had about 5 minutes befor dry so 20-30 minutes tops befor you couldnt work with it.

[Stanger]

why are you buying three skimboards?

you know there's starving kids in ethiopia that dont have any skimboards, why not buy two for them?

because they can't eat them.

Priceless

[MaloSkimmer]

yeah i think carbon is a million times worth it. Its stronger, and definitely lighter. Since skimboards are so small and just a little variation can change the weight its not super easy to compare between boards, but surfboards are amazing to compare. My dad recently moved onto epoxy boards, they are like a quarter the weight, and are so so so much stronger and last him so long.

i think that theyre a lot stronger for their weight, and i think its the main reason exile is so big so quick, they have super light boards that seem magically stronger than everyone else at the same time, and its because they go cien por ciento carbon.

NOT WHAT he said
Not about carbon as amount of resin left in lam can increase or decrease the weight of a board. Which that can be controled at will.
Not about epoxy surfboards as his dad recently started riding them but last him so long.
100% not what you think about Exile. Their E-glass board were way better than other companies boards at the time. The magicaly stronger propperly double wrapped rails were not quite magic.

I'll give you stronger for their weight.

Sorry, but I had to.... As nice as I could also.....