What are the fastest?

[TBABY]

Do you guys think slide slipping or pumping (popping) is faster?

I think slide slipping is faster because their is alot less movement and it seems like I go faster then when I pump.

Also what kind of boards do you guys think are the fastest (not rocker) like thickness, material, etc.

What do you think?

[CaboWabo]

Search button bro nammath.

[potatoes63]

i think side slipping works ALOT better than pumping.
i still dont understand how pumping even makes you go faster or float better.
well i think the fastest boards are 5/8s cuz of easier cut on waves

[Chev]

Facepalm. Side Slipping is for more glassy conditions, pump is for rougher, they are different, therefore cannot be compared well.

[ryaskim]

Is your board red?

[CaboWabo]

i think side slipping works ALOT better than pumping.
i still dont understand how pumping even makes you go faster or float better.
well i think the fastest boards are 5/8s cuz of easier cut on waves

I don't know the mechanics behind it, but it's the same reason it works in surfing and windsurfing. When windsurfing in wind that's barely strong enough to get me up on a plane if I pump the board it helps it push up onto a plane and get going. Once on a plane there's so much less resistance that the board just takes off.

[potatoes63]

I don't know the mechanics behind it, but it's the same reason it works in surfing and windsurfing. When windsurfing in wind that's barely strong enough to get me up on a plane if I pump the board it helps it push up onto a plane and get going. Once on a plane there's so much less resistance that the board just takes off.

ooooh thanks, that makes sense i guess.

[Kyle Willcox]

Jim Gordon will be here to Explain within the next 24 hours.

[TBABY]

Is your board red?

No I wish

[ryaskim]

See that's your problem. Go get some red spray paint and go to town.

[nick_sd]

pumping doesnt make you go faster it just keeps you above water. Im pretty sure thats because it puts air under the board but maybe not.

[TBABY]

See that's your problem. Go get some red spray paint and go to town.

Yes!
Now thats the first thing to do on my to do list for tomorrow

[ryaskim]

Facepalm. Side Slipping is for more glassy conditions, pump is for rougher, they are different, therefore cannot be compared well.

facepalm on your facepalm. Both styles can work on both types of conditions, it mostly depends on your style. Although sometimes if it is way too choppy, pumping is the way to go.

[Skim Exile]

i may be wrong but pumping is for when you are slowing down and want to make it to or on a wave and sideslipping is if you are already going fast and want to keep that speed

[KevinRogers]

pumping while side slipping ftw.

[Skim Exile]

pumping while side slipping ftw.

it kinda works lol but ive only done it on flat days where we were just seeing who could sideslip the furthest

[TBABY]

it kinda works lol but ive only done it on flat days where we were just seeing who could sideslip the furthest

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[KevinRogers]

it kinda works lol but ive only done it on flat days where we were just seeing who could sideslip the furthest

haha i was totally just messing, is that even possible? i feel like i'd eat shit haha

[Skim Exile]

it feels like u do... like when you are about to sink while hydrosliding jump up and down a little and it seems like u are going a little bit farther. probably not though

[Logan Sabo]

ive seen some kids catch some crazy set waves side slipping... never seen anyone pump out to one. Personal preference i think. side slipping will do nothing if you dont do it right

[Kyle Willcox]

it feels like u do... like when you are about to sink while hydrosliding jump up and down a little and it seems like u are going a little bit farther. probably not though

Rule #1

I can't even imagine how this works

[TheRealVortex]

sideslipping is used to maintain your speed long enough to make it to the wave your going for.... but you slow down.... and thats why you need to pump to try and keep what speed you have left.

pumping creates a little bump underneath you and its kinda like riding the whoop section on a dirtbike is how ill try and explain it.

you make a bump and then travel over and down it. which helps you keep the speed you have. nothing will keep you going forever.... also slidslipping is used in conditions when the water is dead water ... but is more effective when the water is moving fast

notice you go faster while sideslipping when the water is moving faster.... using speed wax "bowling alley imo is the best to use" will also help you keep the little speed you have.

it all depends on the conditions you are faced with.

i use sideslipping as much as possible when the wave is farther out when pumping cannot get you there.

i think i kinda explained it? if not what ever im tired and just dont give a shit.

[KevinRogers]

i love side slipping for like the split second before i wrap the wave

[ILikePie]

get a red board and this wont matter

[socal skimmer]

i think it was pretty well expained earlier. planing is for when you want to maintain speed, pumping is just for keeping you afloat barely a few seconds longer.
i think planing is easier, and better in good conditions. doig both is best tho.

[noahb]

i prefer the sideslip for a few and pump for a few method...but that's just me

[skimiks]

they are both about maintaining speed and not making speed, but that said i think side slipping is better, at least for me it's better

[shin-n]

what are english?

[Jim Gordon]

Jim Gordon will be here to Explain within the next 24 hours.

Deja Vu..... Anyway, sorry this time I can't help you......I only side-slip.

[TBABY]

Deja Vu..... Anyway, sorry this time I can't help you......I only side-slip.

What about boards?
Thicker or thinner boards go faster?
Stiffness of the board?

[Jim Gordon]

sideslipping is used to maintain your speed long enough to make it to the wave your going for.... but you slow down.... and thats why you need to pump to try and keep what speed you have left.

pumping creates a little bump underneath you and its kinda like riding the whoop section on a dirtbike is how ill try and explain it.

you make a bump and then travel over and down it. which helps you keep the speed you have. nothing will keep you going forever.... also slidslipping is used in conditions when the water is dead water ... but is more effective when the water is moving fast

notice you go faster while sideslipping when the water is moving faster.... using speed wax "bowling alley imo is the best to use" will also help you keep the little speed you have.

it all depends on the conditions you are faced with.

i use sideslipping as much as possible when the wave is farther out when pumping cannot get you there.

i think i kinda explained it? if not what ever im tired and just dont give a shit.

That sounds about right......

[Luff]

it kinda works lol but ive only done it on flat days where we were just seeing who could sideslip the furthest

only in florida...

[TBABY]

What about boards?
Thicker or thinner boards go faster?
Stiffness of the board?

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[Jim Gordon]

What about boards?
Thicker or thinner boards go faster?
Stiffness of the board?

I know a lot of people don't agree with me on this......but thicker doesn't float any better, only when you slow way down......so I would say thicker is not faster. Also if the thicker board has thick rails, it will be slower, but only when going across the wave, not when going across the water to get to the wave. Next stiffer boards, are they slower? Well....yes and no, if the stiffer board has more rocker then it would be slower than a more flexible board with less rocker (not a wet noodle either, because it would most likely be the slowest of all). I have found out that with anything in life, too little is as bad as too much.

[TBABY]

I get it
But what about a Stiffer and a Flexible with the same rocker?
Oh and Jim do you think a Small 5/8" Exile Pro Shape would float me at 137lbs and 5'10" here in NC