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As a rule.....the shorter the board is the less rocker you need. Which means shorter & flatter = more speed & faster turning.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
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mr. gordon -
Ive been working on finding one like i said and it looks like iv'e come across a sweet deal.
im 145 lbs, 5'7" maybe 5'8"
Found a fish 5'4" x 19.5 X 2.10
I'm thinking it's right about where i want it for an agressive style fish. What you think? I serioulsy want a 5'0" one but beggers can;t be choosers.
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~ NJoi ~
5'0 sounds kind of short, that's 7" shorter than you.......hope you surf as good as a pro. The 5'4" sounds a lot better, but the 19.5 sounds a little narrow though. But if you can get a real good deal you could surf it for a year and sell for what you paid for it and buy a new one. What is the shortest board you have rode and what was the shape.Originally Posted by Tony
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
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i pmed you
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~ NJoi ~
Ok i decided to post my fast fish in this thread. Its 6'6" but i forgot the other dimensions. next time i break it out ill tell you guys
Back in the late 70's early 80's your board would be called a rocket fish, because it's longer and narrower than a retro fish. The only difference was they only had two fins not three. And the two side fins would be back more too.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
So why is there two surfboard threads? OK here's what happen. I made a thread on fish surfboards. As a joke, I called it A FISH STORY. When Nick saw it he thought is was a fishing story, which I knew a lot of people would think. So Nick made a surf thread and found out there was already one. Here's what we came up with, if you have a fish post it on( A FISH STORY) and if you have a reg surfboard post it on (Surf Thread). If your not sure if you have a fish or not, go read my threat.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
I'm riding a 5'10x20. I love it.
I thought you were heavy, can you tell us how much you weigh? That would help this thread a lot in determining what size board would float someone.
Last edited by Jim Gordon; 01-26-2010 at 07:45 PM.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
I think this thread is about dead, so I better tell you guys as much as I can why fish surfboards are the best for skimmers that wants to start surfing. Lets talk about the shape of the fish tail, with the V cut in the tail, what's up with that? Here's what I found out when I rode and made them in the 70's. When you think about it's like having two pin tails for greater hold and better water release (more speed). When doing hard turns the fish tail makes you feel like the board is on tracks (super hold). Other tails makes your board feel like your sliding all over (compared to the fish). Also for me I like how when you're in the tube and you start to out run it, you can push on the tail and you can make it dig in and slow you down (like a back brake) which = more tube time.Let me think of more and I'll get back to you guys.
Last edited by Jim Gordon; 01-27-2010 at 07:12 AM.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
the fish tail makes the rail longer on each side, giving you more hold through turns. right?
Yes....you get it, and it doesn't curve away from the water (wave) like a narrower tail. But at the same time it makes the board a little stiffer(harder turning), but the board being short off sets that stiffness. It also gives the board more drive though the turns. And because of the straighter rails it gives you more control on larger waves (most short boards don't like larger waves).
See how my round pin curves in, which works great on mushy waves. But has less hold than a wider straighter rail. Again, straighter rails as a rule are stiffer, that's why fish are shorter than a reg board. That's the way I see it anyway. BTW, my face is blocked out to conceal my identity.
Here's a board I made in the early 80's.
Last edited by Jim Gordon; 01-27-2010 at 12:46 PM.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
sick board. lol why are you concealing your identity? do you still make boards?
Only wood skimboards now. But now that I made this thread.....my son wants to make one. He thinks it looks easy to make a surfboard. Boy will he be in for a surprise when he starts, it took me many years before my boards were good enough to sell in shops.
Concealing my identity started out as a joke, now I find it fun to be unknown.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
haha cool. awesome thread, I don't think it's dead yet. I'm posting pics of my board when I get some decent ones
yeah still wanting a short fat swallow/fish tail.. has anyone ever ordered a board online from a legit store like killer dana? also im thinking epoxy...just because i want to try one and i think having the 5 fin option is sickkk. and i hear they are more durable?
nfarino117: Do you just use a paint pen on top of the front of your board? Or do you have to take it apart?
Let Fire Fall:haha today at moes i was rolling up this guys burrito
So what's up with the wide nose on a retro fish? Well if you have a short board and you have a narrow nose, you'll need to paddle it farther back.....which means it will be harder to paddle and catch waves.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
heres a sick board with a 5 fin option a fish tail thats short and wide...and its a legit place, its were i got my skim from
http://www.triplexsurfandskim.com/Ep...ish_p1094.html
Last edited by TBABY; 01-28-2010 at 04:01 PM.
Shortbus Skimboards
Started to pay for this bad boy today B] Decided it was the one for this upcoming season. 6'4 x 21 5/8
i love that board
Shortbus Skimboards
haha thanks dude :] I can't wait to go out with it.
yeah man i want to get one so badd....but i have know money! haha
cant wait to know how it rides
Shortbus Skimboards
Me either dude im stoked haha
haha sick dude
Shortbus Skimboards
that thing is gorgeous
hahaha thank you kind sir :]
Yeah! and a good price too.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
yes sir!
im thinking about it to.....just need some money
Shortbus Skimboards
Started to pay for this bad boy today B] Decided it was the one for this upcoming season. 6'4 x 21 5/8
Try this.....on small days just use 2 fins, first just try 2 in front, then try just 2 in the back. And for good days use all 4 FTW.
Last edited by Jim Gordon; 01-28-2010 at 06:47 PM.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
Yeah I saw some vids of him surfing way back when on youtube, It's nice and wide, and alittle long so it'll have some leeway for stupid beginner mistakes.
This may seem stupid question but won't removing the front 2 cause alot of extra drag?
Fish boards because of that big V in the back you have to get a rail saver on the end of your leash. If you don't the leash will get caught in that V and make a big cut in the back of your board. And it will look like someone took a saw to your board.=(
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
No.....maybe even less. But use what works best for the conditions. But it's not that much drag anyway because the fins cut though the water like a hot knife though butter.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
I see, but a twin fin is even looser in the back then a quad correct? and isn't a rail saver just a piece of fiber that makes sure the leash starts past where it'll get caught in the tail?No.....maybe even less. But use what works best for the conditions. But it's not that much drag anyway because the fins cut though the water like a hot knife though butter.
Sometimes they are a clear hose over the back end of the leash and some are like a piece of seat-belt tied to the end. Back in the days our twin fins were back farther and were called keel fins, because they looked like a keel on a sail boat. They were low and wide and move to about 6" from the tail. Now four fins work because they are moved up a lot more. The farther you move your fins up the looser the board.
J Gordon Skimboards - Owner
[Remember: your front foot is your gas and back foot is your brake.]
(speed = float)
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