Not cool Allyance not cool (also, Aaron Peluso responds on page 9)

**Kyle Thoresen** · 07-31-2006, 04:12 PM

So i just heard what the prize money totals were. Not cool.

So i guess thats the only thing that went wrong at the contest this year, besides Noogie... poor guy.

Ps not cool

PSS also writing an email to allyance about this shit so im not jsut bitching hahaha seriosuly so gay

**Silas** · 07-31-2006, 04:14 PM

What were they..?

**undertheradar** · 07-31-2006, 04:20 PM

Care to elaborate?

**Kyle Thoresen** · 07-31-2006, 04:23 PM

Jaime only got 900 bucks vs Bill last year getting 4,000

not to metion jaime got 2100 in cabo 1800 something in north carolina... way to pull out allyance... to bad for Jaime and th rest of the guys thats weak for a world champinoship purse

**jake** · 07-31-2006, 04:24 PM

what happened to noogie?

**Kyle Thoresen** · 07-31-2006, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by jake

what happened to noogie?

The money is the issue here.

**(S3)** · 07-31-2006, 04:34 PM

It's always about $.

No seriously, this is a sad day for professional skimboarding if this is indeed true.

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 04:36 PM

can we get an idea of how many entrants there were? i'd like to at least do some rudimentary math.

**Piero Grieco Hellmeister** · 07-31-2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Kyle Thoresen

The money is the issue here.

Come on man, I want to know too.

**samcollett** · 07-31-2006, 04:37 PM

that's gay. are a lot of people complaining kyle?

**(S3)** · 07-31-2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by 4evrskm::Derek

can we get an idea of how many entrants there were? i'd like to at least do some rudimentary math.

http://www.fathomind.com/Events/Big%...ompetitors.pdf

It's almost 4 pages......

**J. Saunders** · 07-31-2006, 04:39 PM

there were like freakin over 40 prosss

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 04:41 PM

and pro entry fee was $100??

oh man...

**Walruz996** · 07-31-2006, 04:41 PM

Dramaa.

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by (S3)

http://www.fathomind.com/Events/Big%...ompetitors.pdf

It's almost 4 pages......

i'd check it out but PDFs lock up my browser for some reason. what was the am entry fee? i know it was higher than normal.

woody was just telling me that it seemed a lot smaller than last year, and looking at the photos i have from it courtesy of ryon, it really does look small...

**Pack A Bowl** · 07-31-2006, 04:42 PM

wow, i never knew the $ was even that high... but yea, if bill mr.winallthecontestsman got 4k last year and jamie only got 900... thats def fracked up.

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Walruz996

Dramaa.

i wouldn't call it drama. something else maybe.

**samcollett** · 07-31-2006, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by 4evrskm::Derek

i'd check it out but PDFs lock up my browser for some reason. what was the am entry fee? i know it was higher than normal.

woody was just telling me that it seemed a lot smaller than last year, and looking at the photos i have from it courtesy of ryon, it really does look small...

i think the am entry fee was 50$.

**Dzan** · 07-31-2006, 04:45 PM

I'd call it hearsay.

**skimnczach** · 07-31-2006, 04:46 PM

that isn't fair

and no, not drama walruz

not enough funding from the main sponsor

they're keeping a lot of the money and not offering as high of rewards

**Walruz996** · 07-31-2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by 4evrskm::Derek

i wouldn't call it drama. something else maybe.

Conspiracy!

**Joe Bailey** · 07-31-2006, 04:47 PM

Worm was announcing over and over that the pro purse this year was $10,000, and that the split wasn't decided yet, and would be announced soon. The announcement was never made to the best of my knowledge. Hmmmmm....

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 04:47 PM

...well, i wouldn't write allyance.

fyi.

**(S3)** · 07-31-2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Joe Bailey

Worm was announcing over and over that the pro purse this year was $10,000, and that the split wasn't decided yet, and would be announced soon. The announcement was never made to the best of my knowledge. Hmmmmm....

Man, they shouldn't admit to not having the purse settled during the competition...that doesn't come over as professional or thought out.

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 04:55 PM

kyle, did you see what i wrote? cmon.

**Blanton** · 07-31-2006, 04:55 PM

"one step forward- two steps back" That is unfortunate... Was there an officially advertised purse for the winner?

**Brew** · 07-31-2006, 04:56 PM

OUCH!!!!! thats horrible.

makes you kinda wonder where the rest of the money went to. so over 4000 bucks just for pro entries and probably another 4000 for everyone else plus donations from Allyance....oh wait were there any? yep this is sounding baddddd. sorry James you were robbed amigo.

**Kyle Thoresen** · 07-31-2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by 4evrskm::Derek

kyle, did you see what i wrote? cmon.

So i shouldnt write to them about pulling out from the prize purse???

**Aaron Peluso** · 07-31-2006, 05:09 PM

My off the top of my head calculation is that allyance walked away from this event with 4 - 5k in their pocket not to mention the free headline sponsorship. So instead of paying 3 - 4 K for the sponsorship, they made 4 - 5k which is a 7k - 9k net loss for skimboarders.

Per my conversation with one of Allyance's higher ups last week, he was very upset with his relationship in skimming in general and said that he wanted to 'get through this weekend and then wipe his hands of the whole thing.' I have no idea what promises were made to him etc... but the whole thing seemed fishy to me from the beginning.

He told me before hand that he was going to cut a check for the purse but anyone that thought it was going to be a lot was high. I never thought they would pocket cash at then end of the day, but the dude was pissed.

Frankly, I saw this coming from the beginning (like 4 months ago...). I just never thought it would be so soon or so abrupt. Bummer.

Hopefully some of the people involved in this deal will learn something from it. I kept my distance.

**dkenn75** · 07-31-2006, 05:12 PM

Yikes...

**Derek Makekau** · 07-31-2006, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kyle Thoresen

So i shouldnt write to them about pulling out from the prize purse???

oh, no. you should do that.

**samcollett** · 07-31-2006, 05:19 PM

aaron, what do you mean when you say he wanted to "wipe his hands clean of the whole thing." like pull out of skimboarding completely? or just forget about something else that happened.

**Aaron Peluso** · 07-31-2006, 05:22 PM

Based on my conversation with that one guy, if he is the dude calling the shots they are done with skimming. But perhaps he was just heated at the moment or is not the dude in charge. I dont really know.

I think their actions speak loudly though. Anyone who promises a 10k purse and then pays out 2.5 holding on to the entry fees obviously doesnt want a long term relationship with skimboarders. Frankly I would be pissed if anyone let them back into skimming in a significant way after that. The purse would have been over twice as big with no sponsors. If thats what they bring to the table then we dont need them.

Also, who ever agreed to let some dudes from NY that nobody knows handle our funds blew it. I dont know who that was, and its not really important as long as it doesnt happen again.

**Joe Bailey** · 07-31-2006, 05:23 PM

Seems to me that someone, or everyone, that has personally been screwed by this company should contact them. I know I would fight for my paycheck if it were short. Afterall, people's families and livelyhoods are on the line. I have tried to contact them numerous times about another issue of the same nature, but have gotten nowhere fast. Good luck to anyone that tries, you have a challenge on your hands. This is such a bad situation!