Do you drop front or back foot firsst? and where are you from?

[ZapBulletRider]

then wouldnt physics tell you that your jumping onto the board and putting all your weirght in the front right off the start does nothing for your momentum in water...but if you can walk onto the board.........

it's not like you're jumping down on top of the board, you're running onto it,

[heavyheavylowlow]

agreed to disagree

[ejb]

so lost.

[heavyheavylowlow]

im pretty sure its a jump unless you get on from the side of your board.

[paddymack]

it's not like you're jumping down on top of the board, you're running onto it,

no your wrong, you said it yourself...look at videos of the ppl that drop backfoot....
you jump onto the board when its FFF...I WOULD KNOW I HAD A FFF DROP FOR 3 YEARS. and switched

[paddymack]

Zebra and I are drop twins. FFF riding goofy and dropping with my right hand on the tail.
And, the only real problem I have with FFF is a lot of times I put my BF on too high and have to adjust it after I'm on the board.

like jon howell???

[heavyheavylowlow]

Zebra and I are drop twins. FFF riding goofy and dropping with my right hand on the tail.

And, the only real problem I have with FFF is a lot of times I put my BF on too high and have to adjust it after I'm on the board.

if you concentrated putting your back foot on first then you wouldnt have that problem.

[Luff]

like jon howell???

Mebbe?

Whenever someone sees me drop they're all like, "wuddafux?" Just how I learned so it feels normal to me . I've tried switching to left hand on tail a BFF but I get frustrated and give up.

[Luff]

if you concentrated putting your back foot on first then you wouldnt have that problem.

Well, duh. I've tried and it's hard as shit for me to change. I don't have much of a problem reaching waves though, and I ride a small as shit board.

[Aaron Peluso]

how is a water drop easier back foot first than front foot? That makes no sense. Your back foot pushes the entire rest of the board up, where in a FFF your foot would land almost in the center of the board./

No, your front foot generally lands at the beginning of the rocker curvature (one of the worst spots), however your back foot lands in the center of the flat spot (if you do it right, like I already described).

with back foot first you dont have to jump laterally, therefore you can drop further out when the water is like it was at 1:08.

also, if you do BFF right, you really dont put a lot of weight on either foot, until both are on the board. A good back foot drop will have the back foot on the board and be pushing out toward the water (not down) while on the board. Then when the front foot comes around both feet feel downward pressure at about the same time.

you have been skimming a long time ZBR, I understand that. But I am telling you, this is better. Maybe not for you, but ultimately, its better.

[heavyheavylowlow]

Well, duh. I've tried and it's hard as shit for me to change. I don't have much of a problem reaching waves though, and I ride a small as shit board.

getting on with your back foot is like walking on to the board. its natural.

[Luff]

getting on with your back foot is like walking on to the board. its natural.

Not foo mee.

[Fanaian]

aaron.. All that you have said makes since and you made me want to learn back foot first. ty.

[Aaron Peluso]

I couldnt care less whether you try it or not. But I think everyone should know that it is better.

I dont like mis information. In my mind the idea that front foot first is better or even equally as good, is flat out wrong.

So I speak my mind...

[waddsworth]

I guess the most solid proof that can be offered that it is better is that there's probably nobody who learned BFF and then switched to FFF because they felt it was better. Its always the other way around.

The reason I asked about "one-stepping" with FFF before was because I was having a hard time visualizing the mechanics of utilizing only ONE full running stroke with your back foot, while simultaneously not kicking the board with your front foot as you bring it over the board. The ONLY way I can see this happening is like in the vid above - where its a drop directly into a side-slip.

[Benji]

Why did this argument start up again? This has already been settled. In a whole other thread.

Even I, someone who has done FRONT FOOT FIIIRST for 10 years and been successful with it, knows that it is not as effective as using your back foot.

IT IS SIMPLE PHYSICS. All you have to do is watch and compare each one on video and it's ridiculously obvious.

No one is saying YOU HAVE TO CONFORM and change your approach to be a legitimate skimboarder. However there is no arguing the fact IT IS a more effective and efficient way of skimboarding. Please stop arguing about it.

[GnarKill1029]

this is convincing...
im gonna try it out and see how i like it
thanks for the info paddy and friends

[sealy]

o-m-g you are so right...

imma try BFFFF monkey squat to FFFF back to FBFFF then squat one...

...uncomfortablility is the best option to comfortability...

[ZapBulletRider]

well like I said I will give it a shot, obviously to be comparing apples to apples I'd have to have months of practice to get to where I'm as comfortable w/ BFF as I am now w/ FFF, but I want to just try it to see. I think we can all agree the biggest factor to how well you're going to be able to hit waves is how fast you can run though.

[Aaron Peluso]

yep. and wave knowledge and timing and trim etc....

but I think a proper BFF drop is in there somewhere.

[Benji]

It is.


Aaron, just post the grady/derek clip again (nothing meant by that Derek, it's just a good example) to give them a visual.

[Seanaldinho10]

edit: plus in south carolina you usually have to water drop and i cant imagine a backfoot being very effective in deep water, maybe thats stupid of me to think but when i think about it, seems right to me.

i water drop back foot first. occaisionally if im not running fast enough or the water is too deep i lose a crapload of momentum and i water drop nearly every time.


PS you should check out 2nd street when you come down next


PSS ejb would know - toby is easily the best skimboarder on tybee and he does a like 5-6 step throw/drop and gets on front first.

[GnarKill1029]

i just tried
it was horrible
ill manage ith front foot first

[ZapBulletRider]

I can't wait to show up at the vic this year, virtually unknown, win it all (in the pro division), and when I get interviewed by surfer magazine (who only showed up because of an anonymous tip that ill shit would be going down this year), I'll be like, "I think it was my front foot first drop that gave me an edge over the other competitors. They're still stuck in the past with their back foot drops, but I'm trying to move the sport forward and take it to new levels." Then you'll see the headline in Surfer magazine: "Skimboarding: Semi-legit after all?"

[Seanaldinho10]

insert donkey picture here

[heavyheavylowlow]

I can't wait to show up at the vic this year, virtually unknown, win it all (in the pro division), and when I get interviewed by surfer magazine (who only showed up because of an anonymous tip that ill shit would be going down this year), I'll be like, "I think it was my front foot first drop that gave me an edge over the other competitors. They're still stuck in the past with their back foot drops, but I'm trying to move the sport forward and take it to new levels." Then you'll see the headline in Surfer magazine: "Skimboarding: Semi-legit after all?"

huh?

[ZapBulletRider]

and I'll be like "yeah I'm representing team DBAG. Me, Luff, Nardog, we all have FFF drops."

[Chrith]

i back foot first switch. feels like i get more speed though front foot first regular

[Doctor Delicious]

yester day i went and learned how to drop on my back foot. Yeah im a bad ass, i learned it in one day. Anyways, I have been doin FFF since i started and i think i like Bff better. Because i haven't perfected it yet, its a little odd but i can do it well enough to catch any wave i could FFF. The thing noticed is the most dramatic difference between the two styles is the initial balancing pose. Bff is better, because right when you get on your board, you are already in the position you should be in to catch the wave, but FFF, you have to shift you weight from the front to the back. Notice how far forward benji leans forward in that video ( no offense, its a sick ass video i'm just saying). I'm gonna root for BFF for a month or two, then come back with my final decision.

[ejb]

i water drop back foot first. occaisionally if im not running fast enough or the water is too deep i lose a crapload of momentum and i water drop nearly every time.


PS you should check out 2nd street when you come down next


PSS ejb would know - toby is easily the best skimboarder on tybee and he does a like 5-6 step throw/drop and gets on front first.

im comin down for the contest, yeah i know who you're talkin bout. he'd be so much better if he fixed his "drop"

[Seanaldinho10]

yeah i know. plus he looks like a kook in some of the pictures ive seen of him mid-"drop"

[Tommy Chong]

yeah, i'm not arguing that BFF is better than FFF or anything on that matter, but i appreciate my FFF drop especially in the past few weeks. This video is from a little more than a year ago

i mean i dont see anyprobelm with the drop and i definitely do not permit a "leap of faith" or jump onto it, a simple run onto
(yes i know i was running extremely slow there)

nor am i promoting myself but this clip was one of the only that show my drop besides *chriths recent footage*

[GnarKill1029]

ohhhh

[Dono]

I have problems dropping with BFF, I dont think i can get used to it. so should i stick with FFF?

[justin4]

naw, learn back foor first, you go faster