Best board for $500

[carolinaskim77]

Got $500 and im looking for a new board. Im a big dude 6.1 230. Im been skimming for about four years on all the beaches in S.C. always had zap boards got a zap pro now. Works good im looking for something with more float that helps get me out there a little more, Whats the best board for me?

[zeus]

zap boom, exile hybrid carbon, vic epoxy carbon,and apex original carbon will all work great for you.

[ankskim]

zap boom with propel bottom.

[S.CruzSkimBoard]

I would get a Large Exile ProShape, which goes 195-250, perfect for you

[RexSkimmer]

you can get pretty much any board with $500

[lucasskim]

you have 500, you can pretty much get any top of the line board you want. just get it big and 3/4" so you can have maximum float

[Jim Gordon]

Got $500 and im looking for a new board. Im a big dude 6.1 230. Im been skimming for about four years on all the beaches in S.C. always had zap boards got a zap pro now. Works good im looking for something with more float that helps get me out there a little more, Whats the best board for me?

The most important thing is.......get something strong, like carbon. Second get something big, like a XL.

[Manny]

Carbon and XL.

[DEskim]

The most important thing is.......get something strong, like carbon. Second get something big, like a XL.


Carbon and XL.

is there an echo in here?

[Tad M.]

A Large or XL Syndrome.

[Jim Gordon]

is there an echo in here?

LOLz

[carolinaskim77]

I like The zap boom and the vic epoxy carbon. Just dont know whats better ive only ridden zap. Most people have thta or exile out here

[Shawn Kenny]

if you like zap stick with them the smetts do tons for the sport and put out the best looking boards on the market

[oatmeal]

I would get a Large Exile ProShape, which goes 195-250, perfect for you

he wants float



zaps are definitely/arguably the floatiest boards out there, stick with them

im sure you wont regret it

[mattyb]

at 230lbs i wouldnt mess around on anything smaller than XL but even that is going to be pushing it. seabass is around 200 and rides an XL but keeps a XXL on hand. XXL would be more appropriate for your size. if you want a XXL that will last, get a slotstik double carbon. light, solid, beautiful and dont have to worry about breaking it.

[Doda]

comparatively to other boards i've ridden, my boom gives me the best float with out sacrificing very much control at all. other boards i've ridden all catered to one or the other; either float or control....I'm very happy with the middle ground they found with the boomhower pro model.

[morg811]

i would go for the boom, it is fast, wraps great and has lots of float. i love my boom

[ankle biter]

As long as the board is red, you will be fine.

[noahb]

large exile hybred 3/4 tapperd carbon textured.

[oatmeal]

he wants float

and a large? really just stop

oh and yeah a slotstick would be another consideration, great boards

[noahb]

he wants float

and a large? really just stop

oh and yeah a slotstick would be another consideration, great boards

wtf?...stop saying he wants float...you allready fucking said that....

large or extra large hybrid with tapperd rails, 3/4 to 5/8....

[tommygallagher]

Im going to actually agree with noah. Sorry oatss. BUT only because I had to explain to him what 3/4ths to 5/8ths was in the last thread he sucked from the long cock of Exile in.

[noahb]

huh?

[zeus]

i ride a large exile 3/4 hybrid. im 5'9 160. it does not feel like a boat, so u shuld def get an xl or more

[tommygallagher]

You also get the 60" Zap Lovett pro model.
Size really isn't as big of a deal as everybody's making it out to be. Its more about what you're comfortable with. For example: I live on the gulf which is tiny, and I ride a 50 inch Zap Rocketfish and I love it.

[Psycho94]

Definetly Exile carbon fiber large or medium

[zeus]

medium, the fuck? the guy weighs 230 pounds. no less than an xl

[tommygallagher]

fish shaped boards are always smaller though....

But its the same width as like a small exile hybrid.

[noahb]

i dissagree with all of you guys...xl hybred would be fine, davecclcf rides a large or extra large hybred and he kills on it and he's a big guy.

[Manny]

is there an echo in here?

I pressed the quick reply button. I didn't see his post. We should make you an Admin so that you can delete the echos.

[ray]

hmmm it seems like everyone who has booms loves and shreds them like mad

[noahb]

noah, shut up you are a fat chode and your opinion sucks



let this guy take advice from experienced skimboarders.

Carolinaskim77, get a vic, slot, or zap, carbon and XL. the exile will not float you. (unless you specifically order a custom size)

your retarded...extra large holds up to 240...it would be perfect for him, you just make things difficult and complicated

[oatmeal]

wtf?...stop saying he wants float...you allready fucking said that....

large or extra large hybrid with tapperd rails, 3/4 to 5/8....

then stop saying exile for EVERY board question.

please try other boards. it is clear with all your remarks you have completely

diluted any possible legitimacy for an accurate opinion.

now try other boards and you will see there are advantages to zap,exile,vic,slot, etc.

I have tried all these boards and that is why it annoys me when the kid says "i want float"

and you say a L exile.... i like that you are supportive of the skimboarding companies but there are other

solutions

[Dave CCLF]

I am 6'3", 200lbs. I will give you this secret nugget of info. I ride an xl carbon exile hybrid 5/8"s with TRADITIONAL rocker, if you're a big dude like me, you need a dining room table. I had a 3/4" before and I hated it. Unless you can run like a motherfucker it just slows you down, and in my opinion the trade off with float is a load, it doesn't matter how floaty the board is if you can't get optimum planing speed out of it. You must call Steve and get them to custom make you a trad rocker since it's a discontinued rocker. You will be blown away by the amount of speed and distance you'll get out of the thing. Good luck my fellow fat fuck :)

[noahb]

then stop saying exile for EVERY board question.

please try other boards. it is clear with all your remarks you have completely

diluted any possible legitimacy for an accurate opinion.

now try other boards and you will see there are advantages to zap,exile,vic,slot, etc.

I have tried all these boards and that is why it annoys me when the kid says "i want float"

and you say a L exile.... i like that you are supportive of the skimboarding companies but there are other

solutions

ive had vics, slots and imo not just for float but for everything including learning wraps and learning all basic wave riding skills, the hybred is the best shape. if this guy wants a new board and has been riding a zap pro then imo he prob isent "pro" at riding waves, maybe im wrong but ive never seen someone with a huge amount of experence ride a zap pro. not only would he have alot of float and speed, he would gain skills on the hybred more than any other shapes ive rode. he would do alot better on a wider board than a skinny slotstick or boom. achually i have no idea about booms or zaps beacuse ive never seen/ rode them so i cant talk about zap.

[Patrick]

I hear red boards are really fast.

[Dave CCLF]

I hear red boards are really fast.

This thing goes about a million mph.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs988.snc4/76177_180384538642346_100000124022163_719643_22862 74_n.jpg

[noahb]

^^^^^^^hahah yeah it does

[Jim Gordon]

I am 6'3", 200lbs. I will give you this secret nugget of info. I ride an xl carbon exile hybrid 5/8"s with TRADITIONAL rocker, if you're a big dude like me, you need a dining room table. I had a 3/4" before and I hated it. Unless you can run like a motherfucker it just slows you down, and in my opinion the trade off with float is a load, it doesn't matter how floaty the board is if you can't get optimum planing speed out of it. You must call Steve and get them to custom make you a trad rocker since it's a discontinued rocker. You will be blown away by the amount of speed and distance you'll get out of the thing. Good luck my fellow fat fuck :)

I agree.......^ not sure about the rocker though.

[noahb]

Every time you post you just make it more clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.

highlight what dosent make sense or what isent true other than spelling and grammer in what i wrote then, be my guest.

[noahb]

you just cant do it can you?

[Chrith]

ahahahah damn derik

[Dave CCLF]

Jim agrees with me, that means I know my shit.

[skimmybits]

achually
derp

[noahb]

Every time you post you just make it more clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.

A XL boom would actually be the best board for this guy IMO

I was thinking about getting one but i have no money.

You get plenty float, and maneuverability from Booms.

I ride THE dinner table of all boards bahaha

nice job

[Manny]

nice job

Don't mistake emphasis for illiteracy.

[Aaron Peluso]

we are happy to make anyone a traditional or constant rocker for that matter. We had issues with shops ordering these specialty rockers in the wrong situations and selling customers boards which were not the best for them (years and years ago). In the VAST majority of circumstances, hybrid rocker is the right choice. But in specialty cases we are happy to make the constant or traditional rockers...

[Dave CCLF]

we are happy to make anyone a traditional or constant rocker for that matter. We had issues with shops ordering these specialty rockers in the wrong situations and selling customers boards which were not the best for them (years and years ago). In the VAST majority of circumstances, hybrid rocker is the right choice. But in specialty cases we are happy to make the constant or traditional rockers...

Aaron, would you agree that a traditional rocker will allow you a longer plane out typically?

[TBABY]

XL or XXL Apex would be a good fit to, they have a few shapes you can choose from to.

[Aaron Peluso]

Aaron, would you agree that a traditional rocker will allow you a longer plane out typically?

Oh yeah... inch for inch the traditional rocker is way faster than the hybrid, especially sliding out... no question. When you get your plane right on one of those things it really flies.

It turns different though too which can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your style and what you are trying to do with it.

and the XL Hybrid is a massive skimboard. Anyone under 200 who says its not big enough has some very strange tastes....

[S. Bopp]

dude cruiseeeeeeee


boomhowers float great and have a turn too them so i would look into that
i understand how everyone says XL or XXL but make sure its not up to your chin thats never good ha

[S. Bopp]

,,,

"booms" are zaps dumb ass its a zap boomhower

[skimiks]

derp (http://www.wavezoneskim.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=16)

[Jim Gordon]

Got $500 and im looking for a new board. Im a big dude 6.1 230. looking for something with more float that helps get me out there a little more, Whats the best board for me?



i understand how everyone says XL or XXL but make sure its not up to your chin thats never good ha

As you see........... this guy needs a XL or XXL.

[S. Bopp]

As you see........... this guy needs a XL or XXL.

bro 6'1 is not as tall as you thnk

[mattyb]

boom is a great board but i see even scrawny skimmers break them constantly. i cant imagine what a 230lb man would do to it.

[Jim Gordon]

bro 6'1 is not as tall as you thnk

Taller than me and 230 lbs is not light either.

[tommygallagher]

"booms" are zaps dumb ass its a zap boomhower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyYEBDpQjjk (hong derp)

[carolinaskim77]

If the Boom is stronger than my pro then i cant imagine it breaking. It takes alot of abuse. Edisto beach breaks right on the sand and i can jump it and land it deep. the tail cracked once and i fixed it. I know i need the xl or xxl. Im just asking Whats the best to get out there cuz the beach i go to now breaks a little farther. I can make it to the wave but never have enough speed to wrap around. Alot of people ride exile but ive seen big dudes break exiles over zaps but once again i dont know. Im buying the board this much before i spend the money so i need to decide but im stuck in the decision...

[tommygallagher]

It is, so you're in good shape.
Just don't custom order zaps. Their custom order charge is bullshit, and I really don't notice THAT much of a difference in the propel bottom.

[willymo]

XXS Wavezone.,..

[carolinaskim77]

so just the regular boom from a website is good.. Man i wish i could try shit out. Nobody skims out here.. Theres like 10 dudes i know and everybody has cheap zaps and exiles. No nice boards

[tommygallagher]

If you like zaps, I would just stay with a boom considering its the easiest to get used to out of all the boards ive ridden(pretty much all the ones mentioned so far) Just order it from skim city of something.

[carolinaskim77]

ok sounds goods.. Thats the one ive been looking at the most.. Ive never even seen a vic in person

[tommygallagher]

Some people like them. I just haven't ridden one I liked so I guess I can't talk that far.

[skimiks]

2nded

[Anton]

This is honestly one of the worst threads I've read in a while.

The best thing you can do is call Skim City, talk to Greg, and explain to him you have $500 to spend at his shop. He will gladly review the best boards he has available in that price range. I say this because 95% of the advice that has been given in this thread is very, very bad advice.

You obviously need a carbon board -- not for strength, but for stiffness. Big guys need carbon.
You need epoxy (since you need carbon) and for 237 other reasons.
We don't know how fast you run, so that's a variable. Speed obviously opens the choices up a bit. But, I have the feeling that if you were 230 and ran a 4.3 sec. 40yd dash, then you'd probably be occupied with other sports... Speed and local conditions will dictate what size/shape is best for you. "Pointier" shapes, in general, won't be a good fit.

[carolinaskim77]

Local conditiona are most of the time the break is far off.. we only go to the beach with the break right on the sand every now and then cuz its a long drive.. Im not crazy fast being a big dude.. I got a short fast burst thats gets me on the board and i def dont run a 4.3 haha try 5 flat

[Hotboxcomp]

55 inch by 21 3/4 carbon if u gonna spend that kinda money.

[Dave CCLF]

We don't know how fast you run, so that's a variable. Speed obviously opens the choices up a bit. But, I have the feeling that if you were 230 and ran a 4.3 sec. 40yd dash, then you'd probably be occupied with other sports... Speed and local conditions will dictate what size/shape is best for you. "Pointier" shapes, in general, won't be a good fit.

This is a really good point. You won't notice the rocker difference if your speed is slow. Can you run faster than little guys because your legs are longer? I know that seems like a crude way to measure it but if you can, you should be able to get real far on a flatter rocker. Your conditions sound similar to mine also, breaking a bit further out, which means its all water drops, that is where rocker is huge. I'm not an exile fanboy, but seriously consider what I recommended. Mine have all been bulletproof, being a large dude kicks the shit out of your board, I have delammed more vics and zaps than I can recall. Every exile I've had has lasted at least 2 full year seasons (and would have longer had I maintained them a bit better.).

[caliskim]

(Just because i do not want to make a new thread about this.)

I am 5' 8" and weigh appx. 150. I want either an exile or apex. Any input on which is better, or is it just personal preference?(from people who actually have them please.) Btw, im down to throw about 500 too!

[Shawn Kenny]

(Just because i do not want to make a new thread about this.)

I am 5' 8" and weigh appx. 150. I want either an exile or apex. Any input on which is better, or is it just personal preference?(from people who actually have them please.) Btw, im down to throw about 500 too!

exile's pro shape and apex's original 2(o2) shape are VERY similar. Apex has 3 layers of sglass over their carbon where exile might have oneon the bottom for the bottom color.(might be eglass) The apex will be a little heavier but will last longer. The apex will be cheaper, but if you go with exile ask steve for the skenny(everything pads shipping and carbon board for 500) EDIT: and for size exile id go with a MS 5/8s pro shape and for apex id go with the o2 53" 5/8s

[DEskim]

(Just because i do not want to make a new thread about this.)

I am 5' 8" and weigh appx. 150. I want either an exile or apex. Any input on which is better, or is it just personal preference?(from people who actually have them please.) Btw, im down to throw about 500 too!

i'm the same size you are +/- a couple pounds and i have a 5/8 exile medium hybrid shape and i love it. best board i've ever ridden for my conditions. so depending what your beach is like i would get this or a new original shape (same size and 5/8) if you want an apex.

[noahb]

(Just because i do not want to make a new thread about this.)

I am 5' 8" and weigh appx. 150. I want either an exile or apex. Any input on which is better, or is it just personal preference?(from people who actually have them please.) Btw, im down to throw about 500 too!

exile and apex both make great boards...pretty much means you need to decide what one you like more/want more beacus i would say they are equal

[ankskim]

XXS Wavezone.,..

go with this

[caliskim]

go with this

Cool BRO!

[caliskim]

go with this


exile's pro shape and apex's original 2(o2) shape are VERY similar. Apex has 3 layers of sglass over their carbon where exile might have oneon the bottom for the bottom color.(might be eglass) The apex will be a little heavier but will last longer. The apex will be cheaper, but if you go with exile ask steve for the skenny(everything pads shipping and carbon board for 500) EDIT: and for size exile id go with a MS 5/8s pro shape and for apex id go with the o2 53" 5/8s

Thanks for the great advice! i just do not know what " 2(o2)" is?

[caliskim]

Right now i have a Surftech Roush morphius=51-52". I cant imagine going bigger!
But what im thinkin is that either and apex/exile is just a much better board:)!
Would you guys still recommend a medium? or medium-small?

vv

Exile's medium= 53.12"
Exile's medium small=52.75"
Apex medium= 52"
Apex medium small=51"

[TBABY]

The 2(o2) is Apexs' new original shape, hence o2 for original 2.

[Jim Gordon]

Originally Posted by Anton
You need epoxy (since you need carbon) and for 237 other reasons.



This is debatable but I do not want to open up a can of worms...

It's true you should use epoxy with carbon. The way I see it..... you need to use epoxy resin with carbon because the other resins will make the board brittle............ :eek: I guess I just open up the can of worms.;)

[Aaron Peluso]

where exile might have oneon the bottom for the bottom color.(might be eglass)

not sure why you are speculating but everything you speculate on is wrong. We dont describe how we make our boards so that others cant copy us. But I will say that our Carbon boards are made the absolute best way possible in my honest opinion. No corner is cut. This is something that very few other companies can boast, if any.

I really don't want to say anything negative about any other company, but you are making it very hard to continue to bite my tongue.

[Hank Snapp]

exile's pro shape and apex's original 2(o2) shape are VERY similar. Apex has 3 layers of sglass over their carbon where exile might have oneon the bottom for the bottom color.(might be eglass) The apex will be a little heavier but will last longer. The apex will be cheaper, but if you go with exile ask steve for the skenny(everything pads shipping and carbon board for 500) EDIT: and for size exile id go with a MS 5/8s pro shape and for apex id go with the o2 53" 5/8s

^ Beat me to it!

[arne]

Aaron, do you realy want to take a cheap shot at Apex? I am not talking smack about your company, nor have I ever questioned how well Exile skimboards are made or ride.

[Shawn Kenny]

not sure why you are speculating but everything you speculate on is wrong. We dont describe how we make our boards so that others cant copy us. But I will say that our Carbon boards are made the absolute best way possible in my honest opinion. No corner is cut. This is something that very few other companies can boast, if any, least of all the one you are comparing us to.

I really don't want to say anything negative about any other company, but you are making it very hard to continue to bite my tongue.

Its not like the color magically appears on the bottom of the board.. My speculations? that a carbon epoxy board with 3 extra layers of glass will wear down to the foam slower(last longer) than just a carbon epoxy board. No matter the brand is... explain to me how i am wrong

[Ryan Jones]

I really don't want to say anything negative about any other company, but you are making it very hard to continue to bite my tongue.

Your hand is so forced...
Why don't you try correcting the misinformation and keep other companies out of it?

[Hank Snapp]

Its not like the color magically appears on the bottom of the board.. My speculations? that a carbon epoxy board with 3 extra layers of glass will wear down to the foam slower(last longer) than just a carbon epoxy board. No matter the brand is... explain to me how i am wrong

He's not saying that there isn't glass on each side of our our double carbon fiber epoxy boards...He was simply saying that to assuming it's only one layer is completely wrong. We don't say we put x layers of x glass on each side so that other companies won't copy us, which commonly happens with other board related things...

[Shawn Kenny]

He's not saying that there isn't glass on each side of our our double carbon fiber epoxy boards...He was simply saying that to assuming it's only one layer is completely wrong. We don't say we put x layers of x glass on each side so that other companies won't copy us, which commonly happens with other board related things...
ohhh ok got it

[Aaron Peluso]

Aaron, do you realy want to take a cheap shot at Apex? I am not talking smack about your company, nor have I ever questioned how well Exile skimboards are made or ride.

No I don't, which is why I didnt. He is on here giving speculative misinformation about how our boards are made then concluding that your boards last longer.

I am sure you can see how I have a problem with that especially considering what you told me on the phone about your views on Exile durability in relation to Apex.

[Aaron Peluso]

Your hand is so forced...
Why don't you try correcting the misinformation and keep other companies out of it?

Thats what I did.

[Ryan Jones]

Doesn't seem that way to me...


This is something that very few other companies can boast, if any. ***edited

[Jim Gordon]

I don't tell people how I make my boards either, that's how I keep other companies from copying them. And they have been trying for 30 years.

[Aaron Peluso]

Doesn't seem that way to me...

ok, made a small edit.

[Shea Benton]

(Just because i do not want to make a new thread about this.)

I am 5' 8" and weigh appx. 150. I want either an exile or apex. Any input on which is better, or is it just personal preference?(from people who actually have them please.) Btw, im down to throw about 500 too!

do NOT choose which board to get from what people say on here. if you have access to friends with each board then ride both and decide. all board companies' boards ride very differently and if someone on here says "oh i love my (insert company)" and you buy it, you won't necessarily like it.

a more extreme comparison, but would you buy a car because someone else said they liked how theirs drives?

[noahb]

well at least you guys are all trying to help this dude out instead of just telling him to get a red one like other threads..good job everyone.

[tommygallagher]

well at least you guys are all trying to help this dude out instead of just telling him to get a red one like other threads..good job everyone.

Red is faster, this is proven. More helpful than you telling everybody to get an exile with no logic at all.

[noahb]

i do have logic beacuse im on my 5th exile and ive ridden most companys...

[tommygallagher]

You rode an apex for less than an hour. You've only owned low end vics. And you've never ridden a zap. Wrong, but I hold you to lower standards than most.

[noahb]

lol, you act like you know what i have rode in the days ive been skimming...ive only been on somb for a year...

[noahb]

You rode an apex for less than an hour. You've only owned low end vics. And you've never ridden a zap. Wrong, but I hold you to lower standards than most.

and i had a zap pro 4 years ago for a summer

[tommygallagher]

lol, you act like you know what i have rode in the days ive been skimming...ive only been on somb for a year...

You said all of this in another thread big guy. And even then, a zap pro wouldn't compare to a carbon board, seeing as that is what OP is trying to upgrade from.

[Dave CCLF]

do NOT choose which board to get from what people say on here. if you have access to friends with each board then ride both and decide. all board companies' boards ride very differently and if someone on here says "oh i love my (insert company)" and you buy it, you won't necessarily like it.

a more extreme comparison, but would you buy a car because someone else said they liked how theirs drives?

There's a lot of people who may not have the ability to "test drive" numerous types of boards if they live somewhere where skimming doesn't have much of a following. In fact there are message boards for advice on cars where people can ask questions about longevity of the product and get consumer reports, go figure.

[arne]

No I don't, which is why I didnt. He is on here giving speculative misinformation about how our boards are made then concluding that your boards last longer.

I am sure you can see how I have a problem with that especially considering what you told me on the phone about your views on Exile durability in relation to Apex.

Thanks for editing that small part Aaron. I think that every one on here knows that the companies which are making high end boards are busting their ass to make the best high end boards that they can for the riders out there buying the boards. We f-ing love skimboarding! We want to make the best skimboards on the beach. Apex is improving on our shapes every chance we get and if we f something up we try and make it better. Exile is an amazing riding board, I haven't tried one that I couldn't get use to and ride well right from the first ride. Apex boards are built strong and ride amazing, and yes it took us some major trial and error to get there. Syndrome may be the strongest board on the planet because Anton gives a shit and is an f-ing master at composites. Slotty's look like a corvette and I heard that they ride very nice. (Matt Bud Likes em), I haven't ridden Vic but Tex basically invented foam boards and I have ridden the Boom and I liked it right away. We are all trying like hell to make a better skimboard and if we discover something new we expierament with it to see if it works. My point is that Apex is trying to keep our boards from wearing out fast by adding extra layers of materials because of where we skim., the shells will chew a board to the foam in 4 months. But all of the top companies are trying like hell to make a great board and they are probably doing a pretty good job . Try them all out and see which one rides best for you

[arne]

i saw the apex RAT... way to steal

bet it rides bad

yeah blah a company did a rectangular board before, but nothing as perfected as the slotstik rat
I have never seen the RAT but Apex did not design that board. We built that board for Donny who designed it three years ago, way before the RAT was made. Donny even posted this shape on the show your board thread about a year ago (pg.288), Concept made it for him. It is a very unique shape and he is the guy who came up with it. It is wide and has a low rocker. If the RAT looks any thing like this board on the corners then I would think that they were not the originator of the shape. Donny holds the right to claim that shape posted on Drews face book page, not Apex and I asked him for permission to use it.
It looks like a solid wake skate, and I tried Donny's concept when he got it made and I liked the way the shape rode. Very floaty and great for tech.

[Aaron Peluso]

Thanks for editing that small part Aaron. I think that every one on here knows that the companies which are making high end boards are busting their ass to make the best high end boards that they can for the riders out there buying the boards. We f-ing love skimboarding! We want to make the best skimboards on the beach. Apex is improving on our shapes every chance we get and if we f something up we try and make it better. Exile is an amazing riding board, I haven't tried one that I couldn't get use to and ride well right from the first ride. Apex boards are built strong and ride amazing, and yes it took us some major trial and error to get there. Syndrome may be the strongest board on the planet because Anton gives a shit and is an f-ing master at composites. Slotty's look like a corvette and I heard that they ride very nice. (Matt Bud Likes em), I haven't ridden Vic but Tex basically invented foam boards and I have ridden the Boom and I liked it right away. We are all trying like hell to make a better skimboard and if we discover something new we expierament with it to see if it works. My point is that Apex is trying to keep our boards from wearing out fast by adding extra layers of materials because of where we skim., the shells will chew a board to the foam in 4 months. But all of the top companies are trying like hell to make a great board and they are probably doing a pretty good job . Try them all out and see which one rides best for you

Not to be a downer after your nice and overwhelmingly positive post, but...... ;)

... I really need to point out that three layers of material is not (necessarily) more than any other high end board. In fact, its quite possible for it to be less (depending on what the layers are and which board you are comparing to). I dont know where you get the idea that '3 layers' is more than everyone else, or "extra" as you say, but its incorrect.

In fact, I would say that on a high end board '3 layers' on each side is the norm rather than the exception. Always has been. Though I dont claim to know exactly what each company uses, I have personally always considered "3 layers" to be "standard" rather than "extra"....

Further, I would say that the number of layers is irrelevant information for the consumer, by itself. For instance three layers of four ounce cloth (12oz total) is less material than to two layers of 10oz cloth (20oz total). I am not saying that Apex uses three layers of 4oz. I am merely pointing out that going around saying "three layers" and implying that this is more than everyone else is wrong both in the fact that other companies definitely use three (or more) layers on each side and in the sense that two layers can be superior to three, or even four layers, depending on precisely what is being input into the board.

[arne]

6oz cloth Aaron

[Jim Gordon]

It's not just how much cloth is used, but what kind..... Like E-glass, S-glass or Carbon. And let's not forget about what kind of resin is used, like Vinyl Ester, Polyester or Epoxy.
As a rule......the more cloth and the less resin the stronger.

[noahb]

Thanks for editing that small part Aaron. I think that every one on here knows that the companies which are making high end boards are busting their ass to make the best high end boards that they can for the riders out there buying the boards. We f-ing love skimboarding! We want to make the best skimboards on the beach. Apex is improving on our shapes every chance we get and if we f something up we try and make it better. Exile is an amazing riding board, I haven't tried one that I couldn't get use to and ride well right from the first ride. Apex boards are built strong and ride amazing, and yes it took us some major trial and error to get there. Syndrome may be the strongest board on the planet because Anton gives a shit and is an f-ing master at composites. Slotty's look like a corvette and I heard that they ride very nice. (Matt Bud Likes em), I haven't ridden Vic but Tex basically invented foam boards and I have ridden the Boom and I liked it right away. We are all trying like hell to make a better skimboard and if we discover something new we expierament with it to see if it works. My point is that Apex is trying to keep our boards from wearing out fast by adding extra layers of materials because of where we skim., the shells will chew a board to the foam in 4 months. But all of the top companies are trying like hell to make a great board and they are probably doing a pretty good job . Try them all out and see which one rides best for you

good stuff

[Aaron Peluso]

6oz cloth Aaron

Also standard. Sounds like a solid way to build a skimboard. But not "extra".

[arne]

haha, I love you man. I'm going to come to cali and we are going to have a few beers.

[Aaron Peluso]

I am super down with that Arne. :)

[NYZ]

Apexile boards

[Shawn Kenny]

zAPEXile

[DC]

i saw the apex RAT... way to steal

bet it rides bad

yeah blah a company did a rectangular board before, but nothing as perfected as the slotstik rat

Pretty much confirms what I've said before, You don't know what you're talking about. Who stole what? I have two of those boards that were made by Concept (The first of which was made over 3 years ago) & now APEX is on the job. It evolved from a fish that Mike Cole made for Me over 7 years ago & It's the best all around shape I've ridden. I don't remember ever handing you My board so how would you have any Idea how it rides in comparison to the RAT? I suspect You don't. I remember sticking up for WZ in a different thread & You & your buddies were all on the APEX tip. (Might have something to do with Matty B & Chan riding APEX?) Now Sebass gets on Slotty, they pick up his boy Matty & You're all on the Slotty tip, Hmmmm.

[lil chuck]

im on the zap tip

[DC]

Careful, it's pointy.

[noahb]

derik is a moron

[lil chuck]

Derik makes sense and has more experience with different boards than you do. You're a moron.

[lil chuck]

For the record I never called Derik a moron. That was all NoahB. I was just showing a vid that in my opinion shows Apex can make a decent board (eglass at that).

i know, my comment wasnt directed to you at all.

[noahb]

go cut your wrists to hardcore music :)

[lil chuck]

wow, that was just a horrible comeback.

[KevinRogers]

go cut your wrists to hardcore music :)

it's sad that's all you could come up with. also the smiley at the end still doesn't help the fact that your a pretentious douche bag.

derik know's what he's talking about. i've never even met the kid in my life and just from seeing what he says on he may not be the most experienced or make boards himself, but he knows what he's talking about.

[noahb]

hahahaha you guys take this all to seriously

[lil chuck]

are your parents consistently disappointed in you?

[KevinRogers]

wtf?...stop saying he wants float...you allready fucking said that....

large or extra large hybrid with tapperd rails, 3/4 to 5/8....

you sound pretty serious to me? when you offer your opinion to someone who's looking for information and get negative feedback when it sucks. don't take it so SERIOUSLY it's part of being on a message board.

[noahb]

chill....i was serious until people just started acting lame

[slotty]

It's not just how much cloth is used, but what kind..... Like E-glass, S-glass or Carbon. And let's not forget about what kind of resin is used, like Vinyl Ester, Polyester or Epoxy.
As a rule......the more cloth and the less resin the stronger.

Excellent points about the performance differences that are attainable when construction varies from cloth style and cloth weight. Brands of cloth also vary and impact performance attributes ( low quality or after market weaves reduce performance and durability ). Proper cloth alignment and saturation is critical, as well. When cloth fibers are properly aligned load shifting is reduced, giving the layup structural integrity and eliminating weak areas. The same can be said for cloth saturation ( equal distribution of resin within the fibers of fabric, either fiberglass or carbon ) and the avoidance of both dry or overly wet areas within the layup. Utilization of proper materials is critical and varying the glassing schedule creates unlimited variety of performance, and ensuring that the shaper/glasser knows his profession, and is not on a steep learning curve, brings the whole piece together with a consistency that legitimizes a $500 board purchase.

[mattyb]

Pretty much confirms what I've said before, You don't know what you're talking about. Who stole what? I have two of those boards that were made by Concept (The first of which was made over 3 years ago) & now APEX is on the job. It evolved from a fish that Mike Cole made for Me over 7 years ago & It's the best all around shape I've ridden. I don't remember ever handing you My board so how would you have any Idea how it rides in comparison to the RAT? I suspect You don't. I remember sticking up for WZ in a different thread & You & your buddies were all on the APEX tip. (Might have something to do with Matty B & Chan riding APEX?) Now Sebass gets on Slotty, they pick up his boy Matty & You're all on the Slotty tip, Hmmmm.

no worries. that board looks nothing like the rat. i can never remember derik being pro-apex. i dont think derik is on a slotty tip because hes still riding a vic but i think seabass and i have shown alot of kids in the area some beautiful, durable, and presentable skimboards thus changing their thoughts about what they "thought" were good boards.

[tommygallagher]

chill....i was serious until people just started acting lame

No. I am fucking chill. You're always serious...in every thread you're in. You just slip the horribly executed excuse that you're kidding when everybody reminds you how you've never made a positive contribution to society.

[DC]

I think you can pick one of these bad boys up for under $500 & be as happy as Derik here.
http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss297/DCocker/DerikKentSpoonWZ.jpg

[tommygallagher]

epic shop, needs sex wax

[noahb]

No. I am fucking chill. You're always serious...in every thread you're in. You just slip the horribly executed excuse that you're kidding when everybody reminds you how you've never made a positive contribution to society.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

[Jim Gordon]

go cut your wrists to hardcore music :)

If you guys don't stop fighting.......I'm going to cut my wrists./

[noahb]

sorry jim, derik just gets so opinionated and anoying sometimes, i just cant help my self

[raj]

500 is way too much money for any skimboard.

[KevinRogers]

Just like you take eating.

derik i like your opinions.

[mattyb]

500 is way too much money for any skimboard.

i agree. just go get sponsored by any skimboard company for all the wrong reasons, ride the board a week, sell it and pocket the money. so much more fun!

[noahb]

shut your trap mutha licka

[KevinRogers]

shut your trap mutha licka

does anybody on this forum like you? just curious?

[noahb]

nope, everyone on this forum wants to kill me.

[TBABY]

Noah is my homie.

[noahb]

chea

[noahb]

the few that know me on here know that 95 percent of the shit i write is a big joke and i do it beacuse everyone on here is a bunch of stuck up skim fairy's and i think it is hilarious when people get mad and shit

[tommygallagher]

Fairies* and I've been your friend on facebook for quite a while, and no, almost everything you post is completely serious. You're just a faggot.

[lil chuck]

hahahahahahahaha

[Jim Gordon]

nope, everyone on this forum wants to kill me.

Not true........even though noah & tommy fight all the time, I still like them both.
Now let's get back on track========;)

[LI HxC]

http://www.youtube.com/v/FT4YbO_1mvA?fs=1&hl=en_US

This about sums up 85% of the people on here....
Except no one cares who theyre dealing with...

[KevinRogers]

i love most of the dudes on here, i just don't like people who get all serious about something, and then claim they are never really serious and they do it because it's fun.

[tommygallagher]

I told noah the first post I saw of him that he was a faggot, then I negged him.

[noahb]

hahahaha tommy, just beacuse your friends with me on facebook doseent mean that you know me...if i achually cared what you crazies thought of me i would remove you from my facebook but i dont, cuz i could give a shit, and im not a faggot, im not gay so this dosent make sense, i may be retated but i aint gay.

[tommygallagher]

You did just prove a point, so I'm somewhat proud of you. Some chick on your facebook even said that everybody makes fun of you in school, so obviously you're not much different here. I keep you as my facebook friend for entertainment.

[noahb]

wtf are you talking about? you know more about what goes on my facebook than i do...kinda odd

[tommygallagher]

It was like last week big guy

[noahb]

creeeeeeeeeeeper status

[noahb]

and she was joking, thats my firends girl, she dosent even go to my school.

[tommygallagher]

Not really, I commented on it, and a bunch of your friends liked it because i concurred that nobody likes you.

[noahb]

ha, your crazy kid

[KevinRogers]

for someone who doesn't care what we all think, you sure try and do a lot of damage control

[tommygallagher]

Exactly.

[Hotboxcomp]

is this a way to increase year end sales

[TheRealVortex]

im a fatty ide ride a xxl slotstik if i was in your boardshorts.

dont listen to the skinny people on here. they will die first when the food source runs out

[TRiiPPiN]

its funny that trv totally avoided being even nominated for a 'most hated' somba, just bc he laid low for the last 2 or so months

[bmbaker14]

xxl slotstik Double Carbon Comp
its got a 3/4 core and since your on the east coast its got a little less rocker(since you wont need a lot) which will give you a little more speed.

[floridaskimmer]

I would get a pro model of either Vic zap slotstick or exile everyone says the boom is good lol stating the obvious but just get what you think is the best but make sure it is carbon

[Chrith]

way to dig up this thread