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Thrillhouse
04-20-2009, 09:09 AM
Alright, so I've been tossing this idea around forever (as I'm sure we all have). It's time to get off my ass and do something.

I feel a WaveHouse mirroring San Diego's (less the pool & rec center) could be insanely successful if it was brought to the proper location "on the Gulf Coast". I picked the Gulf, not just because I live here, but as a result of the concentration of skimmers, surfers and tourists we have here. Clearwater Beach is a huge tourist draw (PCB could be a back up location). I've talked to numerous people about this in the past, from skimmers & surfers to prospective investors. Everyone has given a thumbs up.

I know people on SOMB have probably entertained the idea, but I don't think anyone has acted. That is kind of the purpose of this thread.

Do you know anyone that has tried, or have you tried, to get this project underway? If so, where did you hit your roadblocks.

I intend to draw up the productions plan, with cost models, forecasts, etc; then petition a board of investors along with the city & county for zoning, etc. I know there is a shit ton of work to do here. But I am willing to do it (may need to assemble a team like Voltron). I've already done some research in the way of costs (development, sustainment, taxes & insurance), which I will obviously include in my proposal.

Here's my ideal situation; I just need feedback on whether you feel it's feasible or not.

Location: Clearwater Beach or surrounding area
Attractions: 2 small wave flowriders & one big flowbarrel, bar & grill, concert area (now opens a new venue for artists), surf store (Clothing, etc)
Goal: Ultimately I'd like to position myself as Ops Manager and once I pay off the investors, eventually become part owner.

I understand this is sharing information that could be perceived as confidential; but I am just looking for honest feedback. If you feel you could launch project, I implore you to try as I am not in it for the financial aspect as much as I am for bringing this attraction to my local area.


If you don't know what I'm talking about, please see the following
http://www.wavehouse.com/
http://waveloch.com/

SANDSURFER007
04-20-2009, 09:34 AM
Clearwater is a great place for it good luck on the project.Have you looked at other maybe cheaper areas(tax wise and cost of land)Pinellas Park or maybe Reddington Shores.The whole area Pinellas County is a good location.Is there any closed down Water Parks in the area that are already zoned for this and the investor might be able to buy the property for cheap compared to buying land tearing down existing structures and building a new park not to mention getting the zoning.Clearwater is known for it's zoning issues.Ron Jons tried to build a water park in Cape Canaveral spent millions hired a developer who specializes in water parks found out after years of working on the plans and with the developer that Ron Jons,the developer,and city of Cape Canaveral were not compatable and scrapped the whole project.Ron Jons built a resort with lame park small slide and no wavepool.Any way good luck you have a great idea and Pinellas is a great area for this be open with where and try to think of all problems that an investor might run into know the answers to questions that willbe asked before he asks. GOOD LUCK

Joey Peters
04-20-2009, 09:37 AM
if you did it, i think it would take a LONG time to get everything in place and then get it built

Thrillhouse
04-20-2009, 10:03 AM
Clearwater is a great place for it good luck on the project.Have you looked at other maybe cheaper areas(tax wise and cost of land)Pinellas Park or maybe Reddington Shores.The whole area Pinellas County is a good location.Is there any closed down Water Parks in the area that are already zoned for this and the investor might be able to buy the property for cheap compared to buying land tearing down existing structures and building a new park not to mention getting the zoning.Clearwater is known for it's zoning issues.Ron Jons tried to build a water park in Cape Canaveral spent millions hired a developer who specializes in water parks found out after years of working on the plans and with the developer that Ron Jons,the developer,and city of Cape Canaveral were not compatable and scrapped the whole project.Ron Jons built a resort with lame park small slide and no wavepool.Any way good luck you have a great idea and Pinellas is a great area for this be open with where and try to think of all problems that an investor might run into know the answers to questions that willbe asked before he asks. GOOD LUCK

Yes, I have quite a few location in mind. For instance, the old Sunshine Speedway would be perfect (come from Tampa, on your way to the beach). I understand location(s) will be key. I will be considerate of this need & cost, in my proposal.

matty kerns
04-20-2009, 12:01 PM
dude donnie and i have been talking about this for along time...all the venues for concerts have been closed down.....it would be awsoem to have concerts and flow contest at the same time...lets do it

John Akerman
04-20-2009, 01:50 PM
thats a great idea!! but who has the money for that?

Thrillhouse
04-20-2009, 01:57 PM
You don't need money as much as you need will, determination & the business experience to draw up a legitimate & enticing investment plan for private investors, entrepreneur's, philanthropists, etc (wow big words)

and Matt...yea man, trust me I've been preaching the same thing. I go through ambition in waves. I think now is the time though. I will definitely need help, so I'll tap ya bud.

skimfl
04-20-2009, 02:30 PM
Good luck finding investors.

matty kerns
04-20-2009, 02:51 PM
dude im down.....hit me up..

Thrillhouse
04-20-2009, 02:58 PM
I'm up, hit me down

noah lane
04-20-2009, 05:25 PM
From what I understand, you cannot get the barreling flowrider built. There are a couple reasons, one because the dude that owns the rights to it wants everyone to go to the Wave House in San Diego, and two because another Flowrider would have to be blanketed by his insurance policy -since no insurance carriers will insure the thing.

-that's just what I've heard from the owner of the Flowrider in Sacramento

Andy Schaaf
04-20-2009, 06:23 PM
it'd be sick to have one down here!

skimfl
04-20-2009, 06:25 PM
Idc if it has a barrel or not, any wave would be sick to ride for more than 5 seconds on the gulf coast.

Andy Schaaf
04-20-2009, 06:29 PM
Idc if it has a barrel or not, any wave would be sick to ride for more than 5 seconds on the gulf coast.

well they already have the regular flowrider in tampa

Thrillhouse
04-20-2009, 07:20 PM
From what I understand, you cannot get the barreling flowrider built. There are a couple reasons, one because the dude that owns the rights to it wants everyone to go to the Wave House in San Diego, and two because another Flowrider would have to be blanketed by his insurance policy -since no insurance carriers will insure the thing.

-that's just what I've heard from the owner of the Flowrider in Sacramento

I thought about this roadblock. Wondering if I could handle it like a skatepark (hey kid, sign this waiver that says you can legally die here).

narwhal
04-20-2009, 07:21 PM
PCB is getting a Flow Rider...being built right now.

Corbin Dull is helping manage it...I think.

Thrillhouse
04-20-2009, 08:19 PM
PCB is getting a Flow Rider...being built right now.

Corbin Dull is helping manage it...I think.


sweet. Just the flowrider or the whole deal?

narwhal
04-20-2009, 08:23 PM
Not exactly sure yet.

Indy
04-20-2009, 08:58 PM
bring it around here, the beach tourist capital of florida, brevard county.