View Full Version : Show your Ride V2
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-23-2006, 09:51 AM
Well I know someone did this before on the other MB's but here it is again, show your car off... mine's nothing awesome, but here it is...
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h107/BradnLindsey/Picture272.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h107/BradnLindsey/Picture274.jpg
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h107/BradnLindsey/Picture276.jpg
Islandboy
05-23-2006, 10:31 AM
Year 2000, Honda Torneo (Japanese Accord). I love this car, its soooo much better than the other P.o.s. Chevy Cavalier I was driving....
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gl9v9.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/10gla44.jpg
http://i4.tinypic.com/10glabp.jpg
Colon
05-23-2006, 10:37 AM
Here's my wife's car after some asswipes tried to steal it last week:
http://www.cramikskim.com/extraneous/ripoff6.jpg
http://www.cramikskim.com/extraneous/ripoff8.jpg
Islandboy
05-23-2006, 10:42 AM
Gangstas are stealing mini vans now, shit... Sorry to hear that bro, hope you get everything sorted out...
One time this douchebag threw a boulder yea, a boulder, about a 25lb limestone rock through my Dad's truck window for 3 dollars clipped in the visor....
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-23-2006, 10:45 AM
Holy hell dude, Im sorry to hear about someone trying to steal your wifes car.. yeah, hopefully everything gets worked out..
omi one
05-23-2006, 10:50 AM
Funny thing is, I can see the two wires they forgot to cut to start it. Idiots!
Tough break man. I hope you find them and make them pay for that.
emt239
05-23-2006, 10:50 AM
that accord looks much better than the usdm ones
dan.nj
05-23-2006, 11:53 AM
Heres my whip...
http://cintex.homestead.com/files/tanabersx.jpg
Teddy Hartford
05-23-2006, 11:59 AM
http://myspace-114.vo.llnwd.net/00113/41/19/113949114_l.jpg
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05-23-2006, 12:30 PM
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727bryon
05-23-2006, 12:50 PM
I love that Honda, IslandBoy. And GTIs are just badass, Hartford.
nukka-cp
05-23-2006, 03:28 PM
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4829/mustangfront5av.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mustangside19oy.jpg
she needs some work right now
new clutch
new tires
brake job
Islandboy
05-23-2006, 04:04 PM
I love that Honda, IslandBoy. And GTIs are just badass, Hartford.
Thankz bro. Yea, its good to see the skimmers roll in some fresh rides. I like the RSX, and the VW. I was actually thinking about getting a Jetta too, just to have a clean, but stylish car, but it never panned out... The stang is nice too Nukka, there used to be alot of those around here, but I guess people wrecked all the older ones...
awww nukka the el camino died?
http://www.gravityboard.com/support/gstore/boards/m27.gif
just got her tuned up. she runs beautifully now
nukka-cp
05-23-2006, 04:05 PM
nope, still have her drover her to school today
thanx islandboy
hahaha sick. el camino > non-1964 stang
nukka-cp
05-23-2006, 04:22 PM
i dunno, the mustang is alot more fun to drive
Rhino
05-23-2006, 09:15 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/trnitaround/MVC-001F.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/trnitaround/modeloncar.jpg
nukka-cp
05-23-2006, 09:38 PM
if that's really your 64 then that's fucking sickk
Rhino
05-24-2006, 12:31 AM
yah, well ill be honest, its my dads, but i drove it senior year of highschool, but now i got his 98 ranger for college...
but yah i love that car
Rhino
05-24-2006, 12:32 AM
oh, and nice call on the 64'
727bryon
05-24-2006, 05:04 AM
Yeah Nick, I agree with Jake. All El Caminos > all Mustangs.
IslandBoy, Jettas are so sick. I love the early-Late 90s ones. I just love European cars, and mostly V-Dubs. I am more into vintage Volkswagens though. My dad drives an '03 Passat, and I have drove it before, so great.
Mapdash
05-24-2006, 06:19 AM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/mapdash/PB050014.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/mapdash/PB050009.jpg
Scrub
05-24-2006, 07:13 AM
two things for nukka, love your cars. and love your sig.
727bryon
05-24-2006, 07:23 AM
Mapdash, one of the nicest 350z's I've seen. Good job on not ricing it out.(if that sounded like sarcasm, it wasn't) BAD ASS!
vicskim4406
05-24-2006, 07:26 AM
Yeah that was a nice 350z.. not gonna lie
727bryon
05-24-2006, 07:31 AM
Here's my wife's car after some asswipes tried to steal it last week:
That is a suck.
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 07:40 AM
Mapdash, very nice 350Z... Im sure you get that all the time.
Mapdash
05-24-2006, 07:47 AM
thanks. Getting Utec and high flow cats installed tomm actually. endless cycle.
727bryon
05-24-2006, 08:02 AM
It's so nice, I love the gold wheels on the white.
skimmer-x
05-24-2006, 08:35 AM
That 350 is weak. I would smoke it with my delorean.
Pack A Bowl
05-24-2006, 08:47 AM
nice mapdash. nice.. i think i'll go take pictures of my speed mobile soon. ha ha ha.
ted@mb
05-24-2006, 09:05 AM
nce rims on the 350, heres mine, 04 wrx and 78 chevy<3[URL="http://[/URL]
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/tedmcginley/o.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/tedmcginley/suby10.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/tedmcginley/subbbbyy.jpg
http://myspace-875.vo.llnwd.net/00709/57/86/709096875_l.jpg
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 09:08 AM
DAMNNNN!!! Nice WRX, the link is a little weird on the other one so I didnt really get to see the 78..BUT NICE WRX!!!!
ted@mb
05-24-2006, 09:17 AM
can u see it now? i tried to fix it
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 09:21 AM
Yeah, nice!
Pack A Bowl
05-24-2006, 09:39 AM
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4734/back4sw.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1072/dash0gx.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/8673/front3kk.jpg
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4812/side9nq.jpg
94 G20T Infiniti on it's second engine, maybe 3erd clutch? the 5th gear in the transmission is all fucked and it doesn't always go into 5th first try. its a funny piece of shit that gets me from point a to b and can go 115 with out exploding.
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 09:44 AM
lol, finally another car that has more miles on it than mine. barely though. Mine is only on it's second clutch, brand new in it and now it can burn out again. yay!
matty kerns
05-24-2006, 10:04 AM
my g20 hit a lil over 300 thous b4 its death on one motor...
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 10:13 AM
Every mechanic Ive taken my honda to said it will probably live til 400 thou before it dies on that engine. But the way I drive it it will probably die well before that.. lol.
Mapdash
05-24-2006, 11:04 AM
nce rims on the 350, heres mine, 04 wrx and 78 chevy<3[URL="http://[/URL]
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/tedmcginley/o.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/tedmcginley/suby10.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/tedmcginley/subbbbyy.jpg
http://myspace-875.vo.llnwd.net/00709/57/86/709096875_l.jpg
nice. Weld rims? Think so.
I raced a wrx on the turnpike a couple of weeks ago. Quick little cars.
Are you modded?
DjMattyD
05-24-2006, 11:20 AM
http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/data/500/10557my_scion_tc.jpg
Islandboy
05-24-2006, 11:25 AM
Nice, the TC's are hot, there's only one on the island here, and its the only Scion. Cool pic too, with the sky and what not...
DjMattyD
05-24-2006, 11:26 AM
yah I love my tC
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 11:26 AM
Yeah the TCs are the only ones I like, I cant really say I like any of the others..
DjMattyD
05-24-2006, 11:31 AM
yeah the others are ugly as shit....thats why when someone asks me what kinda car I have I say a tC not scion...
727bryon
05-24-2006, 11:33 AM
Nice WRX Ted, and the RV is just rediculous. I love those things.
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 12:07 PM
yeah that RV looks like quite the party bus! I wanna see pics of the inside!
KrisStone
05-24-2006, 12:16 PM
http://myspace-588.vo.llnwd.net/00363/88/54/363274588_l.jpg
Mine is the one that is stuck
Walruz996
05-24-2006, 05:09 PM
It looks the price for all those stickers may be the same as the RV.
ted@mb
05-24-2006, 06:00 PM
madpash..slightly...suspension,up/down pipe short shifter..little things
gettting a big16g, EM, big TMIC, injecters and such within the next two weeks...cant wait
i never raced a 350, howd it turn out between you and the wrx..you modded?
ted@mb
05-24-2006, 06:02 PM
and yea, weds. i think thatrs what you meant.
Chrith
05-24-2006, 06:08 PM
i saw a vid of a stock 300zx smock a stock 350z
Canadian_Skim
05-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Im hoping to buy my dads 1995 GTI VR6 , forest green , alloys , jazz like that .
who was on here that drove the Evo?
Mapdash
05-24-2006, 08:42 PM
i saw a vid of a stock 300zx smock a stock 350z
Im going to assume it was a 300zx tt. Was that on Top Gear?
Mapdash
05-24-2006, 08:43 PM
madpash..slightly...suspension,up/down pipe short shifter..little things
gettting a big16g, EM, big TMIC, injecters and such within the next two weeks...cant wait
i never raced a 350, howd it turn out between you and the wrx..you modded?
I put 3 car lengths on him from about 80 to 120.
yeah Weds........thats what i meant.
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 08:45 PM
I know Atrus on here drives a Lancer, but not an Evo, its nice tho.
vance
05-24-2006, 08:54 PM
Heres mine .. like the tint? :D
i also have a dual exhaust system for sale.. borla with 2"pipes 3" tips if anyones interested.
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-24-2006, 08:58 PM
That Tundra is soooo nice!
thatsmyword
05-24-2006, 09:41 PM
http://myspace-114.vo.llnwd.net/00113/41/19/113949114_l.jpg
niice teddy, r32?
nukka-cp
05-24-2006, 09:59 PM
that's what i was thinking
727bryon
05-25-2006, 08:27 AM
I think it might be the Aneversary (I butchered that word, but I don't care) Edition. I know those are the wheels used on it.
Anton
05-25-2006, 08:56 AM
Bring it, bitches.
305K and counting.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/antonflew/truck2.jpg
ted@mb
05-25-2006, 12:13 PM
3 lengths? damn. whats done to your engine>
CaboWabo
05-25-2006, 12:52 PM
EDIT: My ride yo
Gary Fisher Kaitai w/ 29" wheels
http://www.hardie-bikes.com/smsimg/uploads/kaitai.jpg
WRX is awd and only has 220...i would imagine the 350z's 280hp w/ rwd would win that.
And whoever said mapdash did good rice...he hasn't done anything rice at all...thats what a proper clean sports car should look like, rice encompases shitbird civic, crx's, del sols, anything of the sorts w/ huge gay wings and unpainted body kits. Hell even painted rice is complete shit. I guess rice could also be the late 90's Convertable Mustang i saw yesterday w/ the gayest wings of them all...its like a double stack wing...for extra downforce im sure ;)
For the 350Z and WRX i like the bronze rims, that shit is hot.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/SkimDood/DSCN0319.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f180/SkimDood/DSCN0198.jpg
2005 Cummins Turbo Diesel 4x4...Lots of mods, 5" exhuast, banks intercooler and high ream intake, cool air intake, programmer, etc......550 WHP, 1000 LBFT. WTQ
Diesel is killing me though so I'm probably getting rid of the truck and gettin a little somehting like this,http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/supra_1894_2993099http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/supra_1898_61779584
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-25-2006, 01:16 PM
Mike, that truck is hawt!!
CaboWabo
05-25-2006, 02:23 PM
Insurance would be your new diesel :)
DjMattyD
05-25-2006, 02:28 PM
EDIT: My ride yo
Gary Fisher Kaitai w/ 29" wheels
http://www.hardie-bikes.com/smsimg/uploads/kaitai.jpg
WRX is awd and only has 220...i would imagine the 350z's 280hp w/ rwd would win that.
And whoever said mapdash did good rice...he hasn't done anything rice at all...thats what a proper clean sports car should look like, rice encompases shitbird civic, crx's, del sols, anything of the sorts w/ huge gay wings and unpainted body kits. Hell even painted rice is complete shit. I guess rice could also be the late 90's Convertable Mustang i saw yesterday w/ the gayest wings of them all...its like a double stack wing...for extra downforce im sure ;)
For the 350Z and WRX i like the bronze rims, that shit is hot.
rear spoilers on front wheel drive cars is hawt
Chrith
05-25-2006, 02:28 PM
damn mike. If you get a supra im keying it. just out of jealosy
pffft
05-25-2006, 02:42 PM
bring that thing down to miami and drift battle !!!!!!!!3fast3furrriooousssss
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727bryon
05-25-2006, 06:01 PM
I hate that Supra.
Teddy Hartford
05-25-2006, 08:10 PM
niice teddy, r32?
nah not an r32....its a 20th anniversary edition
it just has aristos same wheels as r32. The seats are recaro (not konig like the r32) and bodykit are votex not r32 kit. And it has a 1.8t and is fwd. I wish it was an r32. 3.2l v6 and awd would be nice.
727bryon
05-25-2006, 08:23 PM
I called that sheet.
Mapdash
05-25-2006, 08:27 PM
3 lengths? damn. whats done to your engine>
At that time: Intake, intake duct, plenum spacer, pulley, full Injen cat back.
Got HF cats and UTEC intalled today. :)
ted@mb
05-26-2006, 08:50 AM
utech? how is that? im looking into the new turbos, cant decide on a big16, or 18g/. so i needed the em,i was deciding over the cobb ap or the utech, not sure what to do, let me know what you think of yours.
I don't like that supra's style, the kits gay. But I'm lookin at a 94 with 800rwhp. I'll be good with that. Thanks for the ups on my truck Brad.
Mapdash
05-26-2006, 12:08 PM
utech? how is that? im looking into the new turbos, cant decide on a big16, or 18g/. so i needed the em,i was deciding over the cobb ap or the utech, not sure what to do, let me know what you think of yours.
the tunability is fckn amazing with it. You can really get in there and fine tune just about everything. I raised my rev limiter, my idle, you can even adjust your Knock parameters and everything. Its crazy.
Im NA so we just tuned AF and timing. It does boost as well obviously.
I like it because it is a piggy back and lets the stock ecu handle the car below a certain load level. I dont like it becuase it is expensive as shit.:eek:
senortetas
05-26-2006, 12:15 PM
my '06 land rover lr3 during a road trip from denver to norcal/socal and back
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/senortetas/DSCN5883.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/senortetas/DSCN6017.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/senortetas/DSCN6062.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v631/senortetas/DSCN6136.jpg
Chrith
05-26-2006, 12:22 PM
I don't like that supra's style, the kits gay. But I'm lookin at a 94 with 800rwhp. I'll be good with that. Thanks for the ups on my truck Brad.
Yeah i have seen alot of supras that have that same exact kit and hood and spoiler
that rv is all that is sick. there's only a few cars i like. wrx's, evos, and older jettas. thats it. im more of a truck guy.
727bryon
05-26-2006, 07:35 PM
I hate Evos. Adding the bodykits/wheels is like putting lipstick on a pig to me. I realize its way fast(-er than the regular Lancer), but i would like to drive something that looks good passing people as well.
mike, god i hope you dig thing...
thatsmyword
05-27-2006, 12:33 AM
nah not an r32....its a 20th anniversary edition
it just has aristos same wheels as r32. The seats are recaro (not konig like the r32) and bodykit are votex not r32 kit. And it has a 1.8t and is fwd. I wish it was an r32. 3.2l v6 and awd would be nice.
thats cool. i also have a gti with aristos. haha mines a vr6 tho
Deebo
05-27-2006, 01:10 AM
Here's my 06 WRX Skimwagon:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/boonester21/DSC00164.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/boonester21/DSC00833.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/boonester21/DSC00871A.jpg
727bryon
05-27-2006, 04:14 AM
That, my friend, is very nice.
CaboWabo
05-27-2006, 05:42 AM
I hate Evos. Adding the bodykits/wheels is like putting lipstick on a pig to me. I realize its way fast(-er than the regular Lancer), but i would like to drive something that looks good passing people as well.
The Lancer EVO VIII GSR and MR are some of the sickest looking cars out right now. They have completly different styling than the stock lancer and their bodykits are performance more than style. My bro owns an MR and he says it feels like doing 80 when hes reaching 140 down a straight, b/c of the front body kit and the rear wing providing down force. And it is just way fast...not er than the lancer...stock an MR can hang with and even beat some top notch cars like Corvette Z06, Viper GTS, BMW's, and Porsches.
ted@mb
05-27-2006, 06:35 AM
sick wagon
BemmeronDubs
05-27-2006, 10:03 AM
1995 supercharged E36:D and a 2005 MB c230 Sport sedan
Chrith
05-27-2006, 10:29 AM
Sick subaru deebo. My mom used to drive one of the saabs thats pretty muchjust one of those. such a fun car to drive.
mike, god i hope you dig thing...
dig thing??
727bryon
05-27-2006, 11:22 AM
The Lancer EVO VIII GSR and MR are some of the sickest looking cars out right now.
Are you blind? Lancers look like asshole. EVOs are pre-riced out Assmobiles. You have no taste in vehicles, my friend.
They have completly different styling than the stock lancer
No. Just no.
And it is just way fast...not er than the lancer...stock an MR can hang with and even beat some top notch cars like Corvette Z06, Viper GTS, BMW's, and Porsches
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
Z06- 505hp/ enough said. No way.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
GTS- 510hp/535 lb.ft. of torque. again, no way.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
M3- 333hp/262 lb.ft. of torque. It could hang, I give it the M3.
M5- 500hp/383 lb.ft. of torque. No hangage.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
911- 325hp/275 lb.ft. of torque. Hang, yes.
911:S- 355hp/295 lb.ft. of torque. Nope.
In conclusion, you suck at life. You brought up the cars, I just provided the stats.
I would much rather take the close to 40 grand of the MR, and get the new GTI. It isn't is fast, don't care. It is full of bad assdom. Then take the other 20 grand remaining and get a few little extras, and a cool scooter. Maybe a new skim, and some skate stuff. Then take the the 14 grand left from that and put it in the bank.
iskimnj
05-27-2006, 01:19 PM
Well, I don't get a car for another year or two, so for now I'm left with this : http://www.skimcity.com/store/images/pi_27272.gif
727bryon
05-27-2006, 02:05 PM
Same deal. My ride is a Sector9 "Luke Nosewalker", and a shitty beach cruiser I am fixing up.
seesquared
05-27-2006, 04:40 PM
1997 Honda Accord. Just a few things done as it's my daily driver. I have a Nissan 240sx project as well
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/JDMduhcord/Accord/Mugen%20Accord/hghway2big.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/JDMduhcord/Accord/Mugen%20Accord/MvinAngle1.jpg
dig thing??
that** dig that thing* as in mudding
dkenn75
05-27-2006, 05:45 PM
that** dig that thing* as in mudding
Lolz, you crazy Floridans.
CaboWabo
05-27-2006, 07:53 PM
Are you blind? Lancers look like asshole. EVOs are pre-riced out Assmobiles. You have no taste in vehicles, my friend.
No. Just no.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
Z06- 505hp/ enough said. No way.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
GTS- 510hp/535 lb.ft. of torque. again, no way.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
M3- 333hp/262 lb.ft. of torque. It could hang, I give it the M3.
M5- 500hp/383 lb.ft. of torque. No hangage.
MR- 286hp/289 lb.ft. of torque
911- 325hp/275 lb.ft. of torque. Hang, yes.
911:S- 355hp/295 lb.ft. of torque. Nope.
In conclusion, you suck at life. You brought up the cars, I just provided the stats.
I would much rather take the close to 40 grand of the MR, and get the new GTI. It isn't is fast, don't care. It is full of bad assdom. Then take the other 20 grand remaining and get a few little extras, and a cool scooter. Maybe a new skim, and some skate stuff. Then take the the 14 grand left from that and put it in the bank.
Dude your a fucking moron...you think HP/Torque are the ONLY things that determine how fast a car is around a TRACK. Drag strip maybe...but a track is about combining power and handling and the EVO VIII MR has some of the best handling ever seen.
My brother is no pro racer...hes just a normal dude that just got into track racing and everytime he goes to the track...he blows away Z06's, Shelby replicas, Lotus Elises, certain Porshces (not saying the EVO will destroy them all), but you get the idea. Its a proven car...im not just spouting shit out, if you have ever watched top gear they did a special on the MR, you should check it out and watch it nip at the heals of a lambo.
Mapdash
05-27-2006, 08:29 PM
Are you blind? Lancers look like asshole. EVOs are pre-riced out Assmobiles. You have no taste in vehicles, my friend.
How are you going to tell someone their opinion is wrong. Its his opinion. You can disagree with it, but that does not make it wrong.
Mapdash
05-27-2006, 08:33 PM
Dude your a fucking moron...you think HP/Torque are the ONLY things that determine how fast a car is around a TRACK. Drag strip maybe...but a track is about combining power and handling and the EVO VIII MR has some of the best handling ever seen.
My brother is no pro racer...hes just a normal dude that just got into track racing and everytime he goes to the track...he blows away Z06's, Shelby replicas, Lotus Elises, certain Porshces (not saying the EVO will destroy them all), but you get the idea. Its a proven car...im not just spouting shit out, if you have ever watched top gear they did a special on the MR, you should check it out and watch it nip at the heals of a lambo.
Evos are about the best bang for the buck you can get. Almost everybody in the import scene will agree with that.
Now........they may (stress may) hang with those cars on a very short track......but a C6 ZO6 will fckn dominate an EVO.
727bryon
05-27-2006, 09:05 PM
Dude. The base GTI is 21, the MR is 36, bud. I exagerated to make a point. Do the research. I didn't ever say the GTI would compete with the MR, I just like it more cause the Lancer is bland, and the EVO is a jazzed up Lancer making it bland AND ugly. How can you say it has different styling? It has a body kit, and a wing. Style? I think not. Even if it does as much as you say, there are other kits/spoilers that can do it as, if not more, effectively without making it look like the shit it does.
I assumed you meant drag racing by the way, cause you didn't imply otherwise. I hate drag racing, I love track/road racing. In that case, yes, many of the said cars could be caught/ beaten.
I preffer German/ European cars cause they are great to look at, and are engineered beautifully. I would much rather compensate some of the power/ performance to drive a great looking car inside and out. Case-in-point, the GTI. The GTI is still a nicely performing car, and to me is just badass. All of the things said about the looks are obviously opinions. That's my 2 cents.
p.s.- Your sig. says Choke the Chicken. Just so you know.
727bryon
05-27-2006, 09:08 PM
How are you going to tell someone their opinion is wrong. Its his opinion. You can disagree with it, but that does not make it wrong.
I will say the "Are you blind?" part was uncalled for. I just have strong hatred toward Lancers.
Mapdash
05-27-2006, 09:20 PM
I will say the "Are you blind?" part was uncalled for. I just have strong hatred toward Lancers.
what do you drive?
727bryon
05-27-2006, 09:26 PM
what do you drive?
At the moment a skateboard, haha. I know I have no room to talk, but I did.
oicdn
05-27-2006, 09:35 PM
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/140796519.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/140796520.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/140796521.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/140796518.jpg
MV Agusta Brutale
Couple things been done since those pics, like no huge rear fender...
Logan
05-27-2006, 10:05 PM
well this happened monday....i looked down to call my mom and a guy in front of me stopped to let someone out of a parking lot.
thanks mom.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/lopa18/DSC00547.jpg
only one light was originally knocked out but the radiator got hit into the engine and an electrical box was hit. ill miss the maxima. she was a good car.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/lopa18/DSC00548.jpg
now im getting my moms jeep grand cherokee laredo.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/lopa18/DSC00556.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/lopa18/DSC00558.jpg
its a dark pic but i jus took it tonight for this very purpose.
Teddy Hartford
05-27-2006, 11:14 PM
dude a gti can be much faster than an evo for the price. It still wont have the handling but for the 10k price difference. Get standalone and a gt35r rods, exhaust. And spend maybe 6-8k depending on how thrifty you are and have a car capable of 450-600 whp depending on the supportings mods and agressiveness of the tune.. or for 400 bucks you can hang with an evo from a roll: diode, mbc, downpipe with dump.
oicdn
05-27-2006, 11:44 PM
OK...so you drop all that moneyz into a Gti with all that engine work/labor...and you still can't outrun a 600 in a straight line. Let alone in some twisties...
"Sportscars" = waste
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 12:43 AM
it would def smoke 600s and would compete with or beat most 1000cc bikes on the road. Not in the twisties although there are cars that are much better in the twisties than any bike. bikes=death. sportscar=fun. Plus have fun riding a sportbike in the rain. I would like to a sportbike but i def wouldnt want to have a bike as my dd id much rather have a sportscar.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 08:04 AM
There's no way you're faster than a 600....here are BONE STOCK OFF THE SHOWROOM times...
Here's an 05 R6...you see those all over the place. And all 600's are about the same:
Bike 120 BHP
0-60 - 3.8 sec
0-100 - 6.6 sec
1/4 mile - 10.54 @ 132 MPH
Here's numbers from an 06 GSXR1000
Bike 180BHP
Acceleration:
0-60 - 2.46 sec
0-100 - 5.2 sec
1/4 mile - 9.77 @141mph
Top Speed 181MPH
So unless you're hitting 11's in the quarter, you're nowhere near those bikes. That's with a bunch of magazine editors with all day at the track. Of course, you're typical rider will be in the high 10's for the 1000, and 11's for the 600...
And for arguements sake, watch the following video:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/88786/lamborghini_vs_ducati/
A Ducati 999 is SLOW for a 1000cc motorcycle. Rule for twins is down one class. So a 999 is in the same class as a I4 750, just like the 749 is in the same class as a 600. The 999 is the slowest 1000cc sportbike on the market. 600's are turning better laptimes. That show is a car biased show...had they picked any other sportbike, it woulda made that Lambo look terribly bad. And I doubt anybody on these boards can beat a Lambo, straights or twisties....
And as for riding a sportbike in the rain, I ride my bike as a DD, rain or shine. It actually makes you a better rider with throttle control and braking. And in the rain, the sportbike will still smoke a car, infact, it's even more in favor of the motorcycle..,. It doesn't have to worry about tires spinning off the line.
So you being able to beat a 600...no. 1000 is WAY out of the question....
CaboWabo
05-28-2006, 08:11 AM
The only street legal car that can compete w/ even a 600cc sport bike on a track is the Ariel Atom. And you could dump that much horsepower into a GTi, but it would only be worth anything on the drag strip...front wheel drive is just not practical for highpowered cars on tracks, way too much torque steer. Bring us a newer R32 then we might have something to work w/ :).
Whats considered a long track Dale? Road America...cuz you might be right, its pretty much all turn then hit a straight...but i have seen videos of EVOVIII MR's just destroying all the said cars on Road Atlanta, which only has one major straight. And the newest Vette it probably couldn't hang w/ b/c that one is a beast, it set the top 5 or 6 time around Top Gears track and they still called it garbage cuz its american.
The only point im really trying to make is that you can't just say the EVO sucks. If you think it looks crappy fine...but its performance is proven.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 08:24 AM
The Z06 is NASTY....and it still can't compete with a 600.
Check this out:
http://media.putfile.com/Z06-90
It has so much torque, he puts it in 5th gear from a stop and it goes 0-140 in ONE GEAR....yikes.
But yeah, most of the cars that compete with a bike will only be good for a straight line. Whether it be an Evo, Scooby, or R32. And even those cars, if you dump just as much money into the suspension as you did for the motor, at the end of the day, you have a $50K economy car, that isn't so economic anymore.
Mapdash
05-28-2006, 08:36 AM
how in the world are you comparing bikes to cars. That is idiotic.
Talk about apples to oranges.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 09:04 AM
how in the world are you comparing bikes to cars. That is idiotic.
Talk about apples to oranges.
When you're talking performance, you're talking numbers. And when talking numbers, you're talking laptimes, acceleration, braking distance, top speed, HP/weight ratio, cost, etc......the bike wins.
Apples to apples. Oranges to oranges.
owned.
Mapdash
05-28-2006, 09:22 AM
When you're talking performance, you're talking numbers. And when talking numbers, you're talking laptimes, acceleration, braking distance, top speed, HP/weight ratio, cost, etc......the bike wins.
Apples to apples. Oranges to oranges.
owned.
Owe my God, you owned me so bad. You literally now own me. Like your name is on my title.................................:rolleyes:
You are beginning to sound like the old OICDN. The necklace buying one.
A bike will almost always outperform a car.......dumbass......why are you acting like that is such a surprise.
Bikes are also very practical. Im sure after you get caught in a rain storm you brag about you domination of cars........standing there in your soaked ass jeans and sick leather jacket.....with your helmet in you hand......dripping water on the floor.
http://www.mallunique.com/postcards/pics/all/motorcycles/rain340.jpg
O to the W to my boy NED.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 09:46 AM
See, ignorance must be bliss.
How about you actually hop on a bike, instead of sitting there typing about "well duh" and see what it's about. There's such things as rain gear. I'm as dry when I step off my bike as you are stepping out of your car. the only people drenched on a sportbike are the jackass squids....probably the people you hang out with.
I never said it was a surprise douchebag, but anybody dumping that much money into a car that'll get smoked by something STOCK, is a waste. I guess you can't read between the lines.
I was never aware there was a new and old OICDN...nice to know somebody is keeping tabs, or else I'de have no clue where I'de be without you. :rolleyes:
You said it was comparing apples to oranges...well you were proven wrong asswipe, take it in stride. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, instead, you attack the person to make yourself look better. I.e. a dumbshit.
CaboWabo
05-28-2006, 10:13 AM
Wow this is just becoming a flame thread lol.
So whats everyones thought on the new Supercharged Lotus Exige? ;)...
...that they won't let us have here in america...asswipes.
BTW Oicdn that bike is tight. I love that cafe racer style.
Mapdash
05-28-2006, 10:16 AM
instead, you attack the person to make yourself look better.
See, ignorance must be bliss.
How about you actually hop on a bike, instead of sitting there typing about "well duh" and see what it's about. There's such things as rain gear. I'm as dry when I step off my bike as you are stepping out of your car. the only people drenched on a sportbike are the jackass squids....probably the people you hang out with.
I never said it was a surprise douchebag, but anybody dumping that much money into a car that'll get smoked by something STOCK, is a waste. I guess you can't read between the lines.
I was never aware there was a new and old OICDN...nice to know somebody is keeping tabs, or else I'de have no clue where I'de be without you. :rolleyes:
You said it was comparing apples to oranges...well you were proven wrong asswipe, take it in stride. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, instead, you attack the person to make yourself look better. I.e. a dumbshit.
You are right. How horrible of me......and not hypocritcal of you.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 12:30 PM
Hahaha...I never attacked you until you attacked me douchebag. Not hypocritical...
Again, it shows how much you actually talk about what you have no idea about.
i think mapdash nailed it.. a motorcycle anywhere except a desert is quite the bad idea... especially florida.. unless you dont want to be riding anywhere from say 2-6 p.m. in the summer without gettting wet. not to mention the blind old people.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 02:30 PM
Floridas actually one of the best places to have a motorcycle. Most places you can't ride in the winter due to snow.
Anybody that rides up north, will agree Florida and your southwestern states are the best places to ride.
Rain does make getting ready a hassle though...
727bryon
05-28-2006, 02:57 PM
Everyone got on this GTi kick, I was just saying I would much rather have one than a EVO.
And motorcycles, in my opinion, are not comparible(sp?) to cars. You can have a kick ass car, or a kick ass bike, both perform well/ to your likings, it's just which you prefer. A car or a motorcycle. I would take a car anyday, but that's just me.
Mapdash
05-28-2006, 03:15 PM
I like the look of the new GTI. It just doesnt have much GO.
nukka-cp
05-28-2006, 05:53 PM
I rearry want to get an r32.
The only street legal car that can compete w/ even a 600cc sport bike on a track is the Ariel Atom .
I beg to differ..... http://videos.streetfire.net/search/surpra%20vs%20r1/0.htm
727bryon
05-28-2006, 06:24 PM
I like the look of the new GTI. It just doesnt have much GO.
I can't believe VW got rid of the 1.8T, and replaced it with the 2.0T. I am not complaining, but the 1.8T is such a great platform. My dad has an '03 Passat with it, and it's so fun to drive.
and antoher.....http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Toyota/16/3DD41E00-1F71-4B1B-8083-2E2EC8FDF8BF.htm
and another..... http://videos.streetfire.net/category/Toyota/16/63B9363B-349D-4AE3-853C-5CDC307E911A.htm
Canadian_Skim
05-28-2006, 06:41 PM
whats the dif. between r32 and vr6 ???
Walruz996
05-28-2006, 06:53 PM
That MV Agusta is amazing! But I like the limited edition Blue/silver one the most. the Ducati 999Rs in black are nice too.
Mapdash
05-28-2006, 08:28 PM
whats the dif. between r32 and vr6 ???
r32 is AWD that is all I know. Well I know its N/A too, and it has around 250 hp.
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 08:29 PM
oicdn there are 1.8t mkiv running 10s and 11s right now and they dont even have the money to buy standalone yet. IN the next year there will be mk4 gtis in the 9s or low 10s most likely. 600whp plus a 2700 lb car less if you remove some stuff = 9s or 10s plus most people reduce the weight to less than like 2500. sooo....yeah a 1.8t has also already put down 760whp but hasnt been dragged. so...yeah. but you are right it probably couldnt hang with a bike.
obviously bikes and cars cant really be compared though.
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 08:33 PM
whats the dif. between r32 and vr6 ???
vr6 gtis are like 2900 lbs. its a 2.8l v6 with 200 hp.
r32 is haldex awd 240ish hp. and more like 3200 lbs.
neither stock is all that fast but the r32s have been responding really well to n/a mods as well as turbo kits. i know there are n/a r32s with minor weight reduction in the high 12s and turbo r32s putting down like 500-600 whp and there potential hasnt even nearly been tapped yet turbo wise.
the hpa r32 twin turbo with 550 hp crank ran low 11s i think.
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 08:36 PM
I can't believe VW got rid of the 1.8T, and replaced it with the 2.0T. I am not complaining, but the 1.8T is such a great platform. My dad has an '03 Passat with it, and it's so fun to drive.
the 2.0t is going to be sick eventually but right now they are limited to chip, intake exhaust cause there is no way to bolt up a new turbo to them at this time. they have a funky manifold turbo connection its like one piece. but besides that 200 hp stock some have dynoed as high as 190whp without mods and 240 whp with chip and turboback exhaust aint too shabby. I wish they hadnt mae it heavier than the mk4 gtis but at least they have independent rear suspension.
oicdn
05-28-2006, 09:03 PM
oicdn there are 1.8t mkiv running 10s and 11s right now and they dont even have the money to buy standalone yet. IN the next year there will be mk4 gtis in the 9s or low 10s most likely. 600whp plus a 2700 lb car less if you remove some stuff = 9s or 10s plus most people reduce the weight to less than like 2500. sooo....yeah a 1.8t has also already put down 760whp but hasnt been dragged. so...yeah. but you are right it probably couldnt hang with a bike.
obviously bikes and cars cant really be compared though.
There's always a handful of cars that demolish bikes. Just like those videos. But when you think about the amount of money dumped into it...it makes you shudder. Most of them are also Supras or some freakish Stang.
You show me a 9 second street car, and I'll show you a person who ate his words. But even then, how many of those are there?
Put comparatively, those cars can't run those numbers without slicks, and would be all over the place. Whereas, you can race with DOTs and street tires on a bike.
But I'm skeptical on that Supra beating that Busa. Yeah, he was ahead, but that driver on the bike wasn't all that great either. There was another vid posted on a forum of 9 second supras, and they launch hard as shit. You could see the Busas front end coming off the ground from the light, you didn't even really see the Supras lights flutter....and for a supra to beat the Busa like that, he would have to be running low 9's high 8s, and launch hard as shit. I think the Busa was playing catch-up. But I definitly know, there are some NASTY Supras out there that eat 600's...but a Busa...I dunno bout that one.
My buddy had a 2nd gen R1 that he put R6 stickers on. Anybody with a bike would know it was an R1, but he used it for the rich guys with the Porsches and the tuned Supras in the area that liked to race squids. Some of the Supras were pushing near 900 HP, street driven, and most often than not, were looking at the R1s taillights....not by much, but looking at them none the less...
Here's why I think the Busa one is slightly unbelievable. At speed, the Busa is a MONSTER...The R1 is no slouch either, but yeah, a Busa flying past an R1....jesus...
http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/turtlesplatter/?action=view¤t=motorcycles-motorcycles-suzukigsxr1.flv
Look how he flies past that R1....
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 09:13 PM
eh...lots of them dont have as much money as you would think....but yes bikes ussually are alot faster. You can make a civic hatch that will beat most street bikes for like 12k or stang foxbodys for probably less (they run high 13s stock and can be had for like 2000 dollars so throw 8k at the engine and you can have a beast. And supras are kinda gay and played out. They are way overpriced, sure they have a great bulletproof engine or whatever but so you make a 1000 rwhp supra its not exactly one of a kind.
a streetbike that does 10s or a car that does 10s who cares...? Neither is a great daily driver. The car will be at least somewhat unreliable and the bike dangerous.
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 09:17 PM
also oicdn i noticed you avoided the part about modded gtis getting smoked by 600cc bikes....cause you realized you were wrong. Im not trying to be a dick but if you dont know what cars can run dont just make things up.
CaboWabo
05-28-2006, 10:29 PM
Mike the key word was TRACK. Sure you can get a car blazing in a straight line, but the bike will out brake and out corner it regardless. Cool videos non the less, i have seen one of a Busa vs 800ish hp supercharged Viper GTS ACR...was pretty sick.
Teddy Hartford
05-28-2006, 11:01 PM
there are a couple cars that straight up outhandle bikes but i wouldnt exactly call them street cars....ariel atom and some other wierd looking car with a shell.
oicdn
05-29-2006, 07:43 AM
also oicdn i noticed you avoided the part about modded gtis getting smoked by 600cc bikes....cause you realized you were wrong. Im not trying to be a dick but if you dont know what cars can run dont just make things up.
I haven't seen any...nor have I heard of a FWD car smoking a bike. Simple logic puts that to rest. If the car even spins SLIGHTLY off the line, the bike has enough of a lead, that the car would have to do some MASSIVE catching up.
I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I'm saying it's unlikely, and/or a rarity.
Rolling racing is a different story, but even then, spinning is still an issue.
My buddy has a 400WHP 1.8T. He can't hang for shit with me, rolling he does better, but I still pull away pretty decently. But he has to feather it, as he lights up 1st, 2nd, and 3rd if he just gives it WOT. Rolling, if he downshifts to hard, spins...
The problem with that Busa video, a stock busa will hold even nicely with a 900hp supra.
A stock busa with a shitty rider will get owned by a 14 sec mustang.
Odds are it's in between. (And insert laughter for those morons who have to race from a rolling start.)
aahhh skimonline i live you. make a fight out of anything. beautiful
727bryon
05-29-2006, 08:16 AM
haha. I'm glad my dispute ended.
nukka-cp
05-29-2006, 11:26 AM
I sold the El Camino today, and I'm contemplating selling the mustang as well to purchase another car. Hmmm.
Teddy Hartford
05-29-2006, 11:49 AM
I haven't seen any...nor have I heard of a FWD car smoking a bike. Simple logic puts that to rest. If the car even spins SLIGHTLY off the line, the bike has enough of a lead, that the car would have to do some MASSIVE catching up.
I'm not saying it isn't possible, but I'm saying it's unlikely, and/or a rarity.
Rolling racing is a different story, but even then, spinning is still an issue.
My buddy has a 400WHP 1.8T. He can't hang for shit with me, rolling he does better, but I still pull away pretty decently. But he has to feather it, as he lights up 1st, 2nd, and 3rd if he just gives it WOT. Rolling, if he downshifts to hard, spins...
The problem with that Busa video, a stock busa will hold even nicely with a 900hp supra.
A stock busa with a shitty rider will get owned by a 14 sec mustang.
Odds are it's in between. (And insert laughter for those morons who have to race from a rolling start.)
generally people that build 500-600 fwhp cars and run them down the strip buy slicks. and if you friend really has a 400whp 1.8t which i doubt he does, he should run drs on the street.
Teddy Hartford
05-29-2006, 11:51 AM
what mods does your friend have on his 400wheel 1.8t id like to know.
what turbo and software and or is he on standalone?
727bryon
05-29-2006, 12:23 PM
I sold the El Camino today, and I'm contemplating selling the mustang as well to purchase another car. Hmmm.
Sell the stang. Get something cool. Shoulda kept the El Camino.
nukka-cp
05-29-2006, 01:22 PM
Nah it needed way too much work, those who have ridden in it understand.
I think I'm going to sell the mustang and by another fox body for around $4k so I have $4k to put into it
727bryon
05-29-2006, 01:33 PM
It sucks you couldn't fix it to where it needed to be.
My neighboor has a '91 Stang. It's nice, but I'm not too into Mustangs. For 8 grand I would look into a early-mid '90s Audi 90 AWD. They go for like $4000 or less, and you have the same amount of money to put into it. Not as fast, but I'm willing to bet it will out-handle the Mustang.
I just love Audis of any year though. That is just one opinion, do what you want though.
727bryon
05-29-2006, 03:58 PM
I want a bus. My family had 2 a few years ago, than we had to move. They are sick. I love them.
VaSkimer18
05-29-2006, 05:38 PM
sweet cars guys...to bad i cant drive :(
oicdn
05-29-2006, 08:43 PM
what mods does your friend have on his 400wheel 1.8t id like to know.
what turbo and software and or is he on standalone?
It's a gold colored 03 GTi..I think it's an 03...same body style, but whatever year the gold came in.
Audi AEB head with Audi Racing BTCC internals
Custom Cams
Custom Intake manifold
JE Pistons
Carillo Rods
Garret GT35/40R Turbo
Custom downpipe and 3" Exhaust
440cc RC injectors
Balanced and Blue Printed on a STOCK BLOCK with 40K miles before he built it as it stands now. I'm sure I'm missing alot of shit like his fuel pump and other stuff, but I remember those things being on the list. But I know for engine management, all he has is a Stage 4 Unitronic chip. Pretty dope set-up.
http://www.unitronic.ca
Those are outstanding guys at unitronic I may add...
But, I wasn't talking about drag strip racing...I was talking about with DOT tires on the street...street racing as if you just rolled up next to him riding down the road. Slicks are a given on a track, but we were talking about these cars as daily drivers. Even still, he spins quite a bit with slicks.
He's not much for straight line racing, although he is guilty of street racing. I don't think he's even been on a 1/4 track, as he's pretty much autoX only. Pretty sick though, cause it's his daily grind.
Teddy Hartford
05-29-2006, 11:38 PM
for turbo do you mean 30/40r? also known as the 35r? or do you actually mean 35/40r? Thats alot of turbo either way im suprised he doesnt have higher hp, i suppose its cause its a dd he is trying to be safe. I didnt think unitronic had a file for the 35r though and how would he have 440c injectors i think those only flow enough for like 350 whp at 100% duty cycle at 4bar. with that turbo he should be runnign no less than 580s ideally more like 720s or 680s though
Teddy Hartford
05-29-2006, 11:40 PM
http://www.unitronic.ca
Those are outstanding guys at unitronic I may add...
.
favorite part of the post....i like how you talk like you know them on a personal level....you do know where they are located right? If not....they are located in canada.
oicdn
05-30-2006, 02:19 PM
for turbo do you mean 30/40r? also known as the 35r? or do you actually mean 35/40r? Thats alot of turbo either way im suprised he doesnt have higher hp, i suppose its cause its a dd he is trying to be safe. I didnt think unitronic had a file for the 35r though and how would he have 440c injectors i think those only flow enough for like 350 whp at 100% duty cycle at 4bar. with that turbo he should be runnign no less than 580s ideally more like 720s or 680s though
Same difference with the 35/40R...all a matter of wording.
I'm pretty sure he's capable of higher HP, but when it was dyno'd, he was just being safe and not boosting it too high.
He's using 440cc injectors because of the fact it IS a daily driver. He originally had 580's on there, but was running too rich for his daily settings and low boost. It was a bit too aggressive. Great for the strip, or if it were an all out race car, but he's gotta keep it reasonable, as it is infact his daily transport. He was no shit riding the bus while his motor was getting built/installed.
Unitronic doesn't have a map, it was a custom map. I said those guys were great/amazing guys, because they didn't need the car there to have to have it set. They had a simulation setting and it was all done by computer. Pretty amazing if you ask me, as most custom mappings require dyno time.
His car is pretty dope, but even he'll tell you, there's a line to be drawn when there's just too much HP to be useable, and he could have achieved the same results with a less costly set-up and by just running the set-up near it's potential, rather than half loading the one he has. It's always good to have a buffer zone I guess...
I'm killing myself looking for pics...I give up. But it doesn't LOOK anything out of the ordinary, except it has a huge front mount and is lowered. Stock rims powder coated black. No carbon, no smoked lights, no euro parts. Looks sick, you wouldn't know it had 400 HP till it was WAAAAAYYYY ahead of you, lol.
Teddy Hartford
05-30-2006, 05:44 PM
yeah no i believe he has the car now i just dont believe it could have 400whp on 440s if you mean 400 crank then yes thats possible maybe. but 400wheel i just cant believe on such small injectors.
oicdn
05-30-2006, 07:51 PM
Lemme see if I can get a scan of his Dyno Sheet...he had a 408 HP at at I THINK 16psi. The reason he DIDN'T run higher boost was the fuel management. the injectors are like you said, a bit small, but here a guy running damn near to the same set-up, but actually a bit better rounded and some SICK ASS brakes. Well, the same brakes I was putting on my Beetle, lol.
Yeah, his mods are pretty similar, same turbo, pistons and rods and head. I dunno what else is similar, but it looks to bre pretty damn close.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/605411
He's running 440's with 410 HP:eek:
Mapdash
05-30-2006, 07:56 PM
yeah no i believe he has the car now i just dont believe it could have 400whp on 440s if you mean 400 crank then yes thats possible maybe. but 400wheel i just cant believe on such small injectors.
These guys are talking crank hp.
Canadian_Skim
05-30-2006, 08:02 PM
holy shit that gti is teh sickness.
Chrith
05-30-2006, 08:04 PM
whats size are those brakes 13"?
Teddy Hartford
05-30-2006, 09:47 PM
Lemme see if I can get a scan of his Dyno Sheet...he had a 408 HP at at I THINK 16psi. The reason he DIDN'T run higher boost was the fuel management. the injectors are like you said, a bit small, but here a guy running damn near to the same set-up, but actually a bit better rounded and some SICK ASS brakes. Well, the same brakes I was putting on my Beetle, lol.
Yeah, his mods are pretty similar, same turbo, pistons and rods and head. I dunno what else is similar, but it looks to bre pretty damn close.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/605411
He's running 440's with 410 HP:eek:
just no....im done arguing
that car made 350whp its located in europe.
you dont have a "friend" with a 400whp gti you just looked at this one and made stuff up before.
why do you want to live an online lie?
BTW 16 psi on that turbo wont net you much more than 260-290whp on a 1.8t depending on the tune. try around 23-25 psi for 400 CRANK hp, that turbo is capable of flowing nearly 40 psi and doesnt wake up until at least 20-22 psi.
AT 16 psi he would just have a downright slow car, stock turbo cars would compete with him, not because they make 260 wheel but because that would be the worst turbo set up ever...huge lag, small powerband, low power.
Teddy Hartford
05-30-2006, 09:51 PM
i also like the picnic table on the back of the car domain gti. mid hatch wing=the gheyness. With the amount of money sunk into that car it could be the sickness but its not.
Brave H
05-30-2006, 10:15 PM
ok.......
time to check nuts.....
I think I have one of the nicest cars on the board....
Its comes complete with a Kotin style cig tray
uhhhh..... its a wagon.
oicdn
05-31-2006, 03:26 AM
just no....im done arguing
that car made 350whp its located in europe.
you dont have a "friend" with a 400whp gti you just looked at this one and made stuff up before.
why do you want to live an online lie?
BTW 16 psi on that turbo wont net you much more than 260-290whp on a 1.8t depending on the tune. try around 23-25 psi for 400 CRANK hp, that turbo is capable of flowing nearly 40 psi and doesnt wake up until at least 20-22 psi.
AT 16 psi he would just have a downright slow car, stock turbo cars would compete with him, not because they make 260 wheel but because that would be the worst turbo set up ever...huge lag, small powerband, low power.
Look close, that car produced 410 HP on one of his runs. Then 350 on another...
Haha, if you say so. I guess a built motor means nothing. Simple math will tell you 16PSI = 160+ HP. PLUS whatever the built motor is outputting. I guess I'm done arguing, as you always seem to have to have the last word...when it was CLEAR that 440c injectors work in a car producing 350-400 HP...people CAN and WILL have nearly the same mods as you. It's the Vdub world....
I guess you wouldn't believe this used to be MY car (not a buddies) either:
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/77707918.jpg
It ran High 12's with 150 "shot" of nitrous...see the VCN 2000???
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104686401.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104686395.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104686380.jpg
It too ran high 12's...turbo nitrous'd built ZC...
oicdn
05-31-2006, 03:27 AM
continued....
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/99961711.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/99961844.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104614398.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104614415.jpg
oicdn
05-31-2006, 03:29 AM
Continued....
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104614483.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/104614501.jpg
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/108178612.jpg
Car was about to have a Porsche/Type IV motor, full suspension and brakes dropped in. Look at the pics closely, those are Porsche Control arms next to those rim boxes.... 200HP woulda have gotten me into the high 12's as well.
200HP Type IV + Bug = 12 second car. Look it up. But I never got around to buying the motor before I sold everything, and got back onto another motorcycle. As well, playing with cars is just no fun to me anymore...regardless of what you're playing with....
But, I guess you don't have to believe me, as I have no clue wtf I'm talking about...I'm just internet lying :rolleyes:
Mapdash
05-31-2006, 07:56 AM
I guess you wouldn't believe this used to be MY car (not a buddies) either:
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/77707918.jpg
I have no problem believing that was your car.
AerialSkimmerBrad
05-31-2006, 08:18 AM
oicdn, how many cars do you have? Nice cars though.
exileskim21
05-31-2006, 08:49 AM
ha i bet this thread is mike fidanza's favorite one ever. what happend to your other car mike, i like that more than the truck.
oicdn
05-31-2006, 09:53 AM
oicdn, how many cars do you have? Nice cars though.
I owned the hatch and Cavalier at the same time. Both cars were PRE FATF...actually I watched the premier of that movie in Connecticut with it Pink. It was when it actually COST MONEY to hook up your car, unlike today where you can buy a body kit for $500, and a turbo for $2000. It was back when, a GSR in a Civic was a rarity, when a GSX was actually worth a damn, and when an Integra actually had street cred.
The car was a test platform for GMs SEMA car company, Mantapart. From a proto hybrid motor to being the test bed for Venom's VCN-2000. I was actually on GM and Mantapart website a couple times... I sold both cars to buy a bike.
I recently sold the bug to get back on a bike.
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/127202224.jpg
Sold that bike, and got the one I have now.
Meh, in retrospect, it was a good experiance, but I think I wouldn't have bought the hatch OR the bug. Yeah, I met some cool people through it all, but it was a HUGE waste of time, money and tickets that never woulda or shoulda happened. Hence the reason, I think cars are a waste. Been there, done that, took home a couple Best of Shows, won some bracket races, got sponsored, got magazin'd, and what a waste...
lunarone
05-31-2006, 11:07 AM
nice bike. ze end.
i like that bike more than the one you have now
oicdn
05-31-2006, 07:41 PM
Do you even know what the bike I have now is?
Walruz996
05-31-2006, 07:43 PM
pfft jake... Clearly you dont know about MVs
no./ the blue oen looks better thogh
Logan
05-31-2006, 10:25 PM
yea i was about to ask if you were proud of all the money you had wasted
Teddy Hartford
05-31-2006, 11:02 PM
Haha, if you say so. I guess a built motor means nothing. Simple math will tell you 16PSI = 160+ HP. PLUS whatever the built motor is outputting.
hahahahhahahahah best quote ever!!!!
built motors dont gain you hp its not like he raised the compression and even if he did that would be good for what 10 hp. The 1.8t engine n/a only puts out like 110 hp. But the best is your 16 psi=160hp line. Simple math so you are assuming the turbo gains 10 hp per psi.
so lets say i run 23 psi on my ko3s does that mean i gain 230 hp if so im gonna go buy a mbc tommorow. Anyway lets say the turbo did gain 160 hp from 16 psi that would be 160+roughly 110=270 hmmm.........and the second graph with 400hp says crankhp and thats also not your "friends" car.
i dont doubt you may now more about jdm but your vdub knowledge is lacking.
if your friend has a bt gti and you dont know the specs just say say so. Dont just go making stuff up. I like your bikes, your pink car not so much.
oicdn
06-01-2006, 08:12 AM
hahahahhahahahah best quote ever!!!!
built motors dont gain you hp its not like he raised the compression and even if he did that would be good for what 10 hp. The 1.8t engine n/a only puts out like 110 hp. But the best is your 16 psi=160hp line. Simple math so you are assuming the turbo gains 10 hp per psi.
so lets say i run 23 psi on my ko3s does that mean i gain 230 hp if so im gonna go buy a mbc tommorow. Anyway lets say the turbo did gain 160 hp from 16 psi that would be 160+roughly 110=270 hmmm.........and the second graph with 400hp says crankhp and thats also not your "friends" car.
i dont doubt you may now more about jdm but your vdub knowledge is lacking.
if your friend has a bt gti and you dont know the specs just say say so. Dont just go making stuff up. I like your bikes, your pink car not so much.
I never said that black car was my buddies car. I said the car has an almost identical build, just a bit more extreme. Read it again before you make statements like you are....i think that's the issue, you're not READING what I'm typing, rather, you're skimming over and jumping to the reply button.
With a built head, and built bottom end, you do "gain" quite a bit of HP even without raising compression. Lighter forged/machined parts = less rotational inertia, which in turn free's up horses. Have you weighed 1.8T pistons and rods? Holy shit, those things are a mini anchor in the shape of engine parts, let alone the tank of a crank in that thing. So the gains are somewhat exponential as compared to say, a Honduh, which usually are pretty light parts from the factory.
As far as the turbo goes, essentially, on an intercooled set-up, 1 psi does equate to roughly 10 HP give or take. It's no coincidence you gain 50-60HP on 6psi on an intercooled system. The gains do vary slightly as the psi is raised or dropped, but simply/generally speaking, for the sake of uncomplicated-ness, 1psi = 10 HP...not factoring in your compression which also effects you gains p/psi. My ZC gained 82HP from 6psi...my buddy's SI gained only 58 HP from 8psi....which is what I'm referring to. For the sake of simplicity with numbers.
I'll admit, I don't know much about dubs...WATERCOOLED dubs. I'm know more about ACVW. But principles are the same accross the board whether it be a Honduh, or a dub....differences mostly being knowing which parts are shit, and which aren't. I only knew the parts I listed, I had no idea if they were "good or not" in the WC dub world, with the exception of the Unitronic ECU.
Thanks for the compliments on the rides though. Most people can't grasp the concept of sponsorship (reason it looked the way it did). Especially in the automotive industry. Anybody remember the Meguires Integra? Had THE UGLIEST body kit on the planet like 7 years ago. Was concievably the ugliest Integra ever, but with an extremely quality paintjob. But what happenned? Meguires product usage shot through the roof. It's all about exposure. That car was a rolling billboard for those companies. Positive or negative connotations aside, there was buzz about the car. Companies want thier names being dropped. That's what being sponsored is about. It's cheaper advertising for them. They give you cost on something in turn for advertisement. From a monetary standpoint, they give you cost on something that produced anyways, sitting on a shelf. You give them advertising, that, had it been a magazine ad, woulda cost thousands. They're not losing money...
The fact that it was "fast" helped show it was a well rounded package. People act like 12.9 seconds is so fast. But put it into perspective. A COMPLETLY STOCK WRX turns 13 second 1320's with a good driver. A COMPLETLY STOCK S2000 with slicks and a good driver turns low 13's. My car had 50 HP less than an S2000...but with nitrous, it had 140-150 more HP. If you look at it that way, my car was extremely un-efficient by todays standards...but back in the day, when that car was around, it was hella fast. Today, it's just "dece", especially a let down considering it was "maxed out". Maxed out cars today produce crazy numbers, and only pull 12 seconds because they have no traction. But people fail to put things into perspective before making comments. Nowadays, if I built the car EXACTLY the same, I wouldn't get a second look from any company, as the scene has progressed so much. That car WAS upping the level. now, to up the level, you have to be crazy crazy crazy. But years ago, it was considered "wild". Now, it's what every ricer has. The only reason I still have some sponsorships is because I know/knew people from back in the day...
As far as my motorcycles...you cannot tell me a Honda Superhark looks better than an MV Agusta Brutale...any motorcycle enthusiast can tell you that...the pic of the superhawk is an extremely flattering pic. Actually, all the Superhawk pics I took were extremely flattering, it's the only reason they were posted, lol. In reality, side by side, there's no comparison, from fit and finish, to just beauty. Look up both models...they're WORLDS apart.
http://pic9.picturetrail.com/VOL297/2096820/7617171/127202218.jpg
Looks better than:
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/MV_agusta_910R_Brutale.jpg
Yeah right...Brutale is to Superhawk as Civic is to Ferrari.
the black one just looks old and boring. oh god jake has an opinion! better shoot it down! people arent allowed to have opinions! crazytalk!
BOYNTONDAVE
06-01-2006, 12:09 PM
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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN1189.jpg
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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN0908.jpg
BOYNTONDAVE
06-01-2006, 12:12 PM
Took the JL out and put Diamond in sound better
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN1109.jpg
oicdn
06-01-2006, 12:45 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN1191.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN1189.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN1111.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN0908.jpg
this 5 images limiting thing is wack....Nobody can put in a smiley thier message, lol.
Nice, NICE ride though.
Dave, how does that sound? I had a the same setup in my truck but they were w6 v2's and a 1600 watt ppi. It was good until I turned it up, then sounded like shit due to lack of airspace. Now I have a center console box with a 12 in matts audio and it's loud,clear, and deep. Oh btw nice avatar..I took he pic a few years ago.
waste of a good truck...
edit: IMO, so you guys dont get your panties ina wad
BOYNTONDAVE
06-01-2006, 02:28 PM
Sounds alright. I sell Mmats. Where did u get the box from?
BOYNTONDAVE
06-01-2006, 02:29 PM
waste of a good truck...
edit: IMO, so you guys dont get your panties ina wad
WTF
?????????????
sorry, i just dont get the point in spending that much money on rims and a system and the screen and stuff. nothing personal, it's just not my style
BOYNTONDAVE
06-01-2006, 02:34 PM
It's cool. But thats what I do for a living. I sell car audio.
727bryon
06-01-2006, 02:50 PM
Sick truck. That is so nice.
Ti_22
06-01-2006, 03:57 PM
Its nice to see more Subaru's around here!
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/Ti_22/canyon.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/Ti_22/Colsonsplash.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/Ti_22/P5210056.jpg
and my weekend vehicle!!!:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/Ti_22/600lil.jpg
PS: ted is that a WRX tryin to look like an sti or what?
dkenn75
06-01-2006, 04:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/dkenn75/IMG_7046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/dkenn75/IMG_7046.jpg
aaahhh that is exactl what i want... a '00-04' prerunner ext. cab. sooo pretttyy
727bryon
06-01-2006, 06:10 PM
I like the 90s Tacomas, they are so rad. White one. I WILL have it.
Teddy Hartford
06-01-2006, 06:12 PM
I never said that black car was my buddies car. I said the car has an almost identical build, just a bit more extreme. Read it again before you make statements like you are....i think that's the issue, you're not READING what I'm typing, rather, you're skimming over and jumping to the reply button.
i read, i understand that isnt his car im just saying that a gt35r does not make 350-400whp on 16 psi on a 1.8t it just doesnt happen.
With a built head, and built bottom end, you do "gain" quite a bit of HP even without raising compression. Lighter forged/machined parts = less rotational inertia, which in turn free's up horses. Have you weighed 1.8T pistons and rods? Holy shit, those things are a mini anchor in the shape of engine parts, let alone the tank of a crank in that thing. So the gains are somewhat exponential as compared to say, a Honduh, which usually are pretty light parts from the factory.
not really. Pistons are already forged from factory. Rods are not forged i dont think but they arent very heavy and the crank is already forged on most years and it is not necessary to replace the crank either. As i told you before a built setup alone will be lucky to gain you 10 hp. Real world gains are non-existent to 3-4 hp. A lighter flywheel would be more beneficial for soley whp gains. As the stock flywheel is dualmass and quite heavy. Built engine is merely to gain some reliability and beable to push higher boost.
As far as the turbo goes, essentially, on an intercooled set-up, 1 psi does equate to roughly 10 HP give or take. It's no coincidence you gain 50-60HP on 6psi on an intercooled system. The gains do vary slightly as the psi is raised or dropped, but simply/generally speaking, for the sake of uncomplicated-ness, 1psi = 10 HP...not factoring in your compression which also effects you gains p/psi. My ZC gained 82HP from 6psi...my buddy's SI gained only 58 HP from 8psi....which is what I'm referring to. For the sake of simplicity with numbers.
once again no. 1 psi equates to it completely depends on the setup. The size of the engine, size of turbo, and the point in the efficiency range of the turbo are the key factors to what 1 psi will gain you. And you cant forget about timing either, cause the farther outside the efficiency range you get the higher the egts the more timing pull the less power. For example if you are running 21 psi on a ko3s(1.8t's stock turbo) and you raise the boost 5 psi you will most likely not gain any hp because you are outside of the efficiency range. And where 1 psi on that turbo in its efficiency range might gain you anywhere from 3-6 hp. On a larger turbo like a 40r you might gain 10-20 hp per psi it competely depends on the setup. For example the same turbo running the same boost will make completely different numbers on a 1.8t vs. an srt4. Why? Because the engine have different displacement and bore and stroke.
also sorry for taking up this whole thread with our arguement.
Mapdash
06-01-2006, 06:20 PM
Took the JL out and put Diamond in sound better
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/BOYNTONDAVE/DSCN1109.jpg
Lookin good dave.
oicdn
06-01-2006, 10:11 PM
i read, i understand that isnt his car im just saying that a gt35r does not make 350-400whp on 16 psi on a 1.8t it just doesnt happen.
It does all day long. People don't think you can get 400HP out of an MR2 with a similar set-up, but it happens all day long. Read some of the rice magazines. As much as I hate looking at them now, they are doing some amazing numbers with what they have. Go on some MR2 and Honduh forums, and take a look for yourself.
not really. Pistons are already forged from factory. Rods are not forged i dont think but they arent very heavy and the crank is already forged on most years and it is not necessary to replace the crank either. As i told you before a built setup alone will be lucky to gain you 10 hp. Real world gains are non-existent to 3-4 hp. A lighter flywheel would be more beneficial for soley whp gains. As the stock flywheel is dualmass and quite heavy. Built engine is merely to gain some reliability and beable to push higher boost.
It doesn't matter if they're forged or not...I said they're LIGHTER WEIGHT. Again, you didn't COMPLETELY read it. Forged means shit unless you're comparing it to something cast. You can forge pistons out of tin and will be about as reliable as paper. I was talking rotational inertia, i.e. weight. The aftermarket engine parts for nearly all cars are tons lighter. Think about what you were talking about, nothing changes, yet, you "gain" 10 HP...where do you think that comes from if nothing changed? Rotational inertia by the crank itself and the parts it's moving being lighter. That's where that 10+ HP is coming from. That, IN ADDITION to changing compression ratio, your head porting, valve angle, rocker ratio, etc all plays a role.
once again no. 1 psi equates to it completely depends on the setup. The size of the engine, size of turbo, and the point in the efficiency range of the turbo are the key factors to what 1 psi will gain you. And you cant forget about timing either, cause the farther outside the efficiency range you get the higher the egts the more timing pull the less power. For example if you are running 21 psi on a ko3s(1.8t's stock turbo) and you raise the boost 5 psi you will most likely not gain any hp because you are outside of the efficiency range. And where 1 psi on that turbo in its efficiency range might gain you anywhere from 3-6 hp. On a larger turbo like a 40r you might gain 10-20 hp per psi it competely depends on the setup. For example the same turbo running the same boost will make completely different numbers on a 1.8t vs. an srt4. Why? Because the engine have different displacement and bore and stroke.
also sorry for taking up this whole thread with our arguement.
Again, back to the reading. Why do you think I said "simply speaking"? I already pointed out there are other factors involved, the amount of power generated from boost varies greatly, remember that you have atmospheric pressure of 14.7 psi + whatever boost you are generating. The amount of power depends on many factors, such as head flow, cam duration and lift, as well as compression ratio, exhaust back pressure and flow of the turbocharger, but ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, 1psi typically relates to 10HP. Rate the turbo system and intercooler sans the motor, i.e. standalone benchflow testing and you'll see...1psi = 10 HP.
Of course, there are Mustangs, and Supras pushing only 8psi with 150 HP gains, that's nearly DOUBLE what I was saying. Then there are your Civic and Integras running 8psi and only seeing 60HP gains. But again, what both of us said, there are other factors involved....but just slow down and read...you'll notice most of what you're typing, is just reverbage of what I'm saying, with your own input added to it.
And yeah...sorry for the thread jacking...it's always nice to have a debate here and there....
oicdn
06-01-2006, 10:13 PM
and my weekend vehicle!!!:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a329/Ti_22/600lil.jpg
PS: ted is that a WRX tryin to look like an sti or what?
I just came back from bike night and saw one of those dyno at 151HP at the rear wheel..dunno what he had done other than exhaust, but it was pretty.
Nice bike...
Teddy Hartford
06-01-2006, 10:43 PM
It does all day long. People don't think you can get 400HP out of an MR2 with a similar set-up, but it happens all day long. Read some of the rice magazines. As much as I hate looking at them now, they are doing some amazing numbers with what they have. Go on some MR2 and Honduh forums, and take a look for yourself.
mr2 has a different engine they probably do make 400 hp, btw i wouldnt know. 1.8ts on the other hand dont and wont make 400 hp on 16 psi with a gt35r. Im not saying larger engines cant.
It doesn't matter if they're forged or not...I said they're LIGHTER WEIGHT. Again, you didn't COMPLETELY read it. Forged means shit unless you're comparing it to something cast. You can forge pistons out of tin and will be about as reliable as paper. I was talking rotational inertia, i.e. weight. The aftermarket engine parts for nearly all cars are tons lighter. Think about what you were talking about, nothing changes, yet, you "gain" 10 HP...where do you think that comes from if nothing changed? Rotational inertia by the crank itself and the parts it's moving being lighter. That's where that 10+ HP is coming from. That, IN ADDITION to changing compression ratio, your head porting, valve angle, rocker ratio, etc all plays a role.....
well it does matter cause the replacement parts are also forged and they both have minimal differences in weight and strength thats why often cranks and pistons arent replaced. The only reason people ussualy replace pistons on a 1.8t is because they have to do rods, most aftermarket pistons for a 1.8t are actually inferior quality to oem as the 1.8t is a stock turbocharged engine and comes with great pistons from factory. Stock rods on the other hand are snapping at around 300-350 wtq. depending on how low the torque hits. (Lower rpm and faster it hits the more likely to snap a rod) So people are willing to spend some money to buy pistons so that they can get 20mm aftermarket forged rods instead of the stock 19mm ones.
Again, back to the reading. Why do you think I said "simply speaking"? I already pointed out there are other factors involved, the amount of power generated from boost varies greatly, remember that you have atmospheric pressure of 14.7 psi + whatever boost you are generating. The amount of power depends on many factors, such as head flow, cam duration and lift, as well as compression ratio, exhaust back pressure and flow of the turbocharger, but ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, 1psi typically relates to 10HP. Rate the turbo system and intercooler sans the motor, i.e. standalone benchflow testing and you'll see...1psi = 10 HP. ....
i see what you are going for but no. Psi can not be coorelated to hp it just cant be done. It is completely application specific. 1 psi can equal 0 hp or it can equal 50 hp(well maybe not that much unless the turbo is for a huge diesel) but still you get the point. And although you are showing common car knowledge such as amu and knowing about benchflow testing,but bench flow testing is used to test flow...g/s of air that can move through and that is what is more easily coorelated to hp gains. Because a large turbo could be moving more air at 5 psi then a small one at 20 psi.
car nerd fight! car nerd fight!
oicdn
06-02-2006, 04:07 PM
mr2 has a different engine they probably do make 400 hp, btw i wouldnt know. 1.8ts on the other hand dont and wont make 400 hp on 16 psi with a gt35r. Im not saying larger engines cant.
MR2's run a 2L...very similar in gains with comparative modifications. You keep saying that guy didn't run 400HP with 440 injectors, then I showed you he IS running high HP with them. Then it changes to, "you can't do 400HP on 16psi..." And he did infact run a 410HP run. The chart is right under the one showing 350...
I have NO IDEA what my budiies compression is, but how do you know the engine after the build didn't produce more power? You're completely disregarding that fact, talking as if he kept the same specs as factory, just newer components.
well it does matter cause the replacement parts are also forged and they both have minimal differences in weight and strength thats why often cranks and pistons arent replaced. The only reason people ussualy replace pistons on a 1.8t is because they have to do rods, most aftermarket pistons for a 1.8t are actually inferior quality to oem as the 1.8t is a stock turbocharged engine and comes with great pistons from factory. Stock rods on the other hand are snapping at around 300-350 wtq. depending on how low the torque hits. (Lower rpm and faster it hits the more likely to snap a rod) So people are willing to spend some money to buy pistons so that they can get 20mm aftermarket forged rods instead of the stock 19mm ones.
I also never said the 1.8T pistons were inferior....I just said they were anchors compared to some aftermarket brands. Same goes for the rods. But you;re right on the rods, it's more for the larger rod. Similar weight, with a bigger rod...who wouldn't want that?
i see what you are going for but no. Psi can not be coorelated to hp it just cant be done. It is completely application specific. 1 psi can equal 0 hp or it can equal 50 hp(well maybe not that much unless the turbo is for a huge diesel) but still you get the point. And although you are showing common car knowledge such as amu and knowing about benchflow testing,but bench flow testing is used to test flow...g/s of air that can move through and that is what is more easily coorelated to hp gains. Because a large turbo could be moving more air at 5 psi then a small one at 20 psi.
It can be done... You're right...I already said there are several other factors. Impellar speed plays that role. Although atmospheric pressure is at 1psi on both systems, impellar speed is less on the larger turbo, thereby pushing the air at a lower velocity. Hence the reason you go with large turbo's for high boost applications, as the gains higher up are exponential with less load on the turbo, but lower boost levels, you're at LESS HP/psi due to less forced induction/wind velocity. the pressure is higher, but ther air velocity isn't. That's why, as like you stated, the gains are different. So it essentially it is the same...you're just changing positions of where the gains are. But there is a middle ground between both systems...
It's hard to explain without a diagram...but hopefully that gets the point accross. Look at what we're both typing...it reverbage of the same information we're just on different pages...
Teddy Hartford
06-02-2006, 07:13 PM
i was saying 440s wont flow enough for 410 whp. they will indeed flow enough for 400 crank hp which is equivalent to 350whp. But IMO he should be running 580s or bigger more like 630 780 range if he wants to push his set up at all. And injectors that big can and have been tuned to have a decent idle its just whether or not the person wants to put in the work or money.
If you want i can post reputable graphs of what a gt35r makes on a 1.8t at like 18 psi and 27 psi with a decent tune.
As i said before a gt35r at 16 psi will not be a fast car power will come on around 5k and you shift at lets say 7k with only 270-280whp tops. The reason people build a 1.8t and run a gt35r is to run high boost like 27-35 or even 40 psi. Thats when that turbo becomes good for a 1.8t with new valve springs and retainers rev it out to 8.5k and you have a nice setup. putting down 400whp-500whp maybe more.
if your friend truly is running the setup you say and a gt35r at only 16 psi and does not wish to push it any further, he should really look into selling it and buying either a gt28rs or gt2871r as he could run those at 22-25 psi and have better power and much better spool up, while keeping reliablity.
Sounds alright. I sell Mmats. Where did u get the box from?
I built both of the boxes. Glassed in the one under my seats just like you have, but instead of the Ram I had a JL symbol...Them painted and cleared the same color as my truck and glassed the lid on. That was in my 1500, then the engine pooped out while going through a water hole. Now I have a 2500 and wanted a box with more air space and just took out the stock console and put it there. Sounds LOUD compared to the other box, and way deeper becuase it's ported. I love the Mmats though, it's sick....How much can you get a Dreadnaut 12" for?? I wanna upgrade from my V3.0 12".
Teddy Hartford
06-03-2006, 05:04 AM
car nerd fight! car nerd fight!
pretty much and id like to think im the bigger car nerd.
oicdn
06-04-2006, 09:36 PM
Maybe I heard wrong, and he runs 16psi daily? But I do know it's 400WHP, with those injectors. Cause he was talking all this shit about being able to beat a bike, and I walked him....but his car is still damn fast.
I have no idea why he went with that set-up. He's always overbuilt everything, and I think it's just for the simple fact of having the ability to up it if he wants? I dunno... The car spins like crazy though, and is a nightmare in the rain. It's def a fun car though.
I haven't talked to the kid in a good while, as work schedules conflict a bit, when I'm getting off, he's going to work...we hardly have the same days off...
Teddy Hartford
06-04-2006, 11:09 PM
yeah he probably exagerated numbers or even setup. Because that would be a pretty damn serious setup gone terribly wrong. Because the specs just dont match up. And if he had 400whp most bikes wouldnt have walked him super bad because he would be mid 11s capable. It should be decently close. If he is really spinning tires alot he probably doesnt even have a gt35r cause those spool so slow they actually spin less than smaller turbos, which create a more low end torque thus more spinning of tires. 35rs are only spinning first and second a little and catching third because they have no torque spike its is a slow onset of boost in upper rpms.. Smaller turbos like 28rs are known to spin through all of third because of their torque spike and be almost unusable in 1st and 2nd without slicks or drs and that would make alot more sense since unitronic has a 440 file for that turbo.
Vic4Yo
06-04-2006, 11:11 PM
for what's it worth:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ice97531/02b63bb3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/ice97531/2.jpg
HandsomeJonneh
06-05-2006, 07:15 AM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4/jonnyhawley/7c509438.jpg
gotta have the illegal tinted windows
car nerd fight! car nerd fight!
hhahaha, i lol'ed
this topic has become a lot of scrolling finding pictures
I am ressurecting (sp?) this...
2006 chevy colorado Z71...
http://myspace-652.vo.llnwd.net/00666/25/61/666481652_l.jpg
melogold
06-15-2006, 09:59 AM
i love the new colorados, nice truck
WWright
07-05-2006, 10:25 AM
my soon to be race truck( still in the build stages)
samcollett
07-05-2006, 10:30 AM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/samcollett/truck1.jpg
06 prerunner 4 door.
i'll post again whenever i get mud terrains and bull guard on.
dkenn75
07-05-2006, 10:53 AM
You better not get a Bull guard on it. That shit's gay to teh max.
Walruz996
07-05-2006, 01:35 PM
Not much, but it gets me around
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h145/Walruz996/Photos/Scenery/Public/trex.jpg
samcollett
07-05-2006, 01:36 PM
You better not get a Bull guard on it. That shit's gay to teh max.
..k
Walruz996
07-05-2006, 01:36 PM
You better not get a Bull guard on it. That shit's gay to teh max.
What if a bull attacks him? then what??
samcollett
07-05-2006, 01:36 PM
davey you liee. that's my go kart.
Walruz996
07-05-2006, 01:37 PM
:rolleyes:
samcollett
07-05-2006, 01:40 PM
http://www.westinautomotive.com/photographs/SMALL%20JPGs/TYBB202WPR.jpg
lights on it of course
dkenn75
07-05-2006, 02:25 PM
Oh you mean light bar. Those are pretty sick...just don't get a brush/bull guard, those are lame and don't do much if you don't drive through dense forestry and such.
samcollett
07-05-2006, 02:26 PM
just don't get a brush/bull guard, those are lame and don't do much if you don't drive through dense forestry and such.
i'm not going to buy a brush guard, but that is a "bull guard." www.westinautomotive.com (http://www.westinautomotive.com)
forests are so think in new orleans you have no idea.
samcollett
07-05-2006, 02:27 PM
forests are so think in new orleans you have no idea.
i know. sometimes i have to bring my machete with me to school. it also provides protection against looters.
teehee. aim is the number one reason for editingtoday
samcollett
07-05-2006, 02:31 PM
teehee. aim is the number one reason for editingtoday
NO WAI
dkenn75
07-05-2006, 02:32 PM
Fine, whatever..."Bull Guard/Light Bar-thing". I'm not a fan of any of them, mainly brush guards (where they cover up like the entire front of your bumper/grill/headlights. That the shit I thought you wanted and that is lame. The pic you put up works well, if I had to choose something for the front I'd pick that.
undertheradar
07-17-2006, 02:54 PM
Wifes/Family car (now has bronze mesh wheels):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/undertheradar/3476387fp63ot2357694535XROQDF232423.jpg
My car:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/undertheradar/16a9faf5.jpg
Chrith
07-17-2006, 03:06 PM
is that sign attached to your civic?
lol^
i dont see why people buy the box cars =\
undertheradar
07-17-2006, 04:28 PM
lol^
i dont see why people buy the box cars =\
Cheap, good gas mileage, lots of interior room. Lots of people actually dig the styling as well.
...and no the sign is not attached. :)
Pack A Bowl
07-17-2006, 04:46 PM
lol i'd be so embarrased to own a scion like that... i've seen that car so many times and yelled ugly car at the owners.. cause they are hidious
Rockporter9
07-17-2006, 04:54 PM
too squarish for me
Iwantazap
07-17-2006, 05:00 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/Rgrose/Myporsche9.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/Rgrose/Myporsche8.jpg
Thats mine. i got 2 of them now same year one is in the process restoring for autocross, and this 1 is my daily driver! I love them!!!
undertheradar
07-17-2006, 05:14 PM
lol i'd be so embarrased to own a scion like that... i've seen that car so many times and yelled ugly car at the owners.. cause they are hidious
Wow! What a cool fucking guy you are!
i dont see the point of 2 of the same exact cars/
my dad has a 01` 911 carrera 2
Iwantazap
07-17-2006, 06:21 PM
i dont see the point of 2 of the same exact cars/
my dad has a 01` 911 carrera 2
Well... you woudl have to knwo the whole story to knwo the point.
I was recently in a hit n' run. and i needed some new parts. My bestfriends girlfriend ahppend to have the same car and i bought i off her for cheap and saved msyself around 1k in parts. Now i have decided to keep the 1 i just fixed up a daily driver and not do anything extreme to it. My other 1 however. i plan to put quite a bit into for autocross.
DJ-NJ
07-17-2006, 08:00 PM
i wish these pickups would last over 100k.. i know the chevys wont. The suburban and the tahoe went at about 100k and hada get rid of em.(both 99's)
i will most likely get a nice pickup for AWD and the moving availibilty(woodworking, etc) and drop a new engine and some repairs when it starts to poop
editt;:: mike what did you mean 'lack of airspace'. like some of my buds have some shitty subs and it really rumbles and sounds like shit
When you don't have enough airspace they crackle and sound like shit, isn't as cleen and deep or as hard hitting as it should be. Overall sounded like shit compared to when I had the subs in a nice enclosure. The Duramax Chevys will last about 200k or a little more. I would NEVER go gasoline again in a truck after having a Diesel :D
Chico
07-18-2006, 07:13 AM
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/1342001/400_3339343461666636.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/1342001/400_3466333863626233.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/1342001/400_3833343964393034.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/1342001/400_6435356236393761.jpg
Pack A Bowl
07-18-2006, 07:15 AM
that car looks so sweet chico. nice choice. hows it drive? and does it have awd?
Chico
07-18-2006, 07:32 AM
Hello,
Thanks Pack a Bowl. It drives pretty well. It has 136 HP and can run up to 230 Km per hour. God bless German Highways with no speed limit. Its no an awd, but you can buy the Audi A3 as Quattro (AWD), but it was too expensive for me. Its a Turbo Diesel Injection from 2002, it only uses 4.9 Litres per 100 Km. I am really happy with it.
MDskimmerMAtt
07-18-2006, 08:28 AM
http://www.powerranger.co.uk/skateboard.htm
undertheradar
07-18-2006, 09:06 AM
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/01/1342001/400_3339343461666636.jpg
I'm jealous!
Chico
07-19-2006, 03:47 AM
Undertheradar, you are invited to visit me anytime and take a ride with it on your own. Thanks for the compliments.
DJ-NJ
07-19-2006, 09:46 AM
When you don't have enough airspace they crackle and sound like shit, isn't as cleen and deep or as hard hitting as it should be. Overall sounded like shit compared to when I had the subs in a nice enclosure. The Duramax Chevys will last about 200k or a little more. I would NEVER go gasoline again in a truck after having a Diesel :D
diesel is deffintly the way to go on a truck,.
so which will have more airspace (the better one)
like in an enclosed box in the trunk like all the retards
orrrr? a cutout in the floor with the box? am i missing something? am i completely off?
senortetas
07-19-2006, 09:50 AM
check JL audio's website for a stealthbox, they're specifically made for trucks and cars with smaller airspaces, plus their custom fitting and usually fairly well hidden if not completely concealed. i'd go that route, otherwise, alpine just relased pre boxed/powered subs, check out the alpine plt-5 for a truck, ive been doing a lot of research lately about subs because im putting together a system myself so if you can have any questions feel free to ask
samcollett
10-21-2006, 10:57 AM
bump. this is a good thread.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a74/jakethedrummer/notwork007.jpg
96 dodge 1500
i need to get more pics.
k, here we go.
it's a lot brighter red than it is here, its like this
http://carad.ebayimg.com/i17/03/a/07/c1/4c/c7_4.JPG
http://carad.ebayimg.com/i13/05/a/07/bf/17/05_4.JPG
being that it's 2wd, im not lifting it. so im looking for things to do to make it look better. i already took that gay bug thing off. and it's got a healthy coat of mu don the side. who says youneed four wheel drive to go mudding?:D
shiznit
10-21-2006, 11:43 AM
once my dad's mustang is done i will post some pics
jcon217
10-21-2006, 12:17 PM
I bet my car has more miles on it than anyone elses here.
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