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live2skim
08-07-2007, 09:37 AM
why do the sizes of skimboards differ so much from company to company?
heres the dimensions of a large skimboard from different companies:

L exile: 52.50" x 20.60"

L grape: 55.25" x 21"

L vic(poly): 55.25" x 21"

L square: 52" x 20 7/8"

L slottie: 54" x 20.25"

L zap: 54.50" x 20.50"

Mapdash
08-07-2007, 09:39 AM
yes.

GnarKill1029
08-07-2007, 09:41 AM
si.

polska
08-07-2007, 09:48 AM
Oui

jesse
08-07-2007, 09:49 AM
ken

bhassan
08-07-2007, 09:51 AM
ay-wha

live2skim
08-07-2007, 12:52 PM
yes.

si.

Oui

ken

ay-wha
shutup

Luff
08-07-2007, 01:13 PM
Look at small/medium Slots compared to other companies. A medium Slot is smaller than a Small Exile (I think).

Different shapers have different styles. Each company has their own shape to their boards, which differentiates them from the others. If all the boards were exactly the same, there wouldn't be much need for so many board companies.

Mapdash
08-07-2007, 01:19 PM
Look at small/medium Slots compared to other companies. A medium Slot is smaller than a Small Exile (I think).

Different shapers have different styles. Each company has their own shape to their boards, which differentiates them from the others. If all the boards were exactly the same, there wouldn't be much need for so many board companies.

you suck.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 01:21 PM
but the vics and grapes are the same size. which is obvious since paul wade was a vic shaper. but you always hear about vics being boats, and then you hear that grapes turn on a dime, there very light...etc. so whats the difference?

LuckyBuMmRa
08-07-2007, 01:38 PM
When i talked to paul he said that he spent more time on the rails than vic or other companies for that matter, that is why his boards are 30 dollars more than a board of the same material from like exile.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 01:48 PM
but ive never heard someone refer to a grape as a "boat". i've heard only good things about them.

Luff
08-07-2007, 02:01 PM
you suck.

:(.

jbskim
08-07-2007, 02:15 PM
but ive never heard someone refer to a grape as a "boat". i've heard only good things about them.

in the same sense, not nearly as many people have grapes compared to vics. so the bunch of people just refer to the boards as bigger.

they are the same sizes like said above

live2skim
08-07-2007, 02:24 PM
but if I were to get a small grape, and it's the same size as an xl exile, will they both have the same amount of float? (of course both would be the same material/resin)

LuckyBuMmRa
08-07-2007, 02:39 PM
A 5/8 exile or a 3/4 exile? Grapes are all 3/4 and if it was the same exact dimensions and thickness it should have the same float.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:21 PM
a 3/4 exile. and thats what i thought, but why are exile and square boards so much shorter than grapes and vics. because that makes a big difference in float, but i've heard that grapes turn faster than exiles. most likely because of the sharper rails on them. so I would think that a grape has alot of advantages on an exile right? because it has more float, light and sharper rails.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:21 PM
but it costs a whole lot more.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:23 PM
not really, $30 isn't that much more when your already paying hundreds anyway.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:25 PM
large carbon exile = 440 large carbon grape=507 67$ is a good amount of money

(note, prices taken from skimcity)

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:28 PM
this is what paul wrote back to me in an e-mail a week ago:

Thank you for your interest in my skimboards. E-glass/epoxy are $390,
S-glass/epoxy are $430, and Carbon/epoxy are $490. Size does not change the
price.

Thank you,

Paul Wade

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:30 PM
and you also have to remember that if it has more float, and sharper rails, then isn't it worth the extra $$$.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:32 PM
agreed.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:34 PM
haha, i think i'm getting a grape.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:36 PM
i know we just had this argument, but i wish i could but i dont have enough money. im barely able to afford a carbon exile, so i will just go with that.

O63MP1R3
08-07-2007, 03:39 PM
I wonder what AP's views are on this one.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:39 PM
i don't have enough money to buy either. but my b-day is next month. and I'll probably have enough by then.if not, I don't need one until next summer anyway.i'm goin up to NJ Thursday morning but i'll just have to sit and watch.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:40 PM
yeah c'mon AP tell us whatsup.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:40 PM
live2skim, where do you live?

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:41 PM
so do I. but you know he'd probably say exile ftw.I wonder if he's ever ridden a grape before?
I wonder what AP's views are on this one.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:42 PM
I live in Virginia
live2skim, where do you live?

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:43 PM
i bet he has ridden one. just out of curiosity

live2skim
08-07-2007, 03:44 PM
yea, i'd like to find out his input though.

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:46 PM
yeeeeeeea

Aaron Peluso
08-07-2007, 03:55 PM
but if I were to get a small grape, and it's the same size as an xl exile, will they both have the same amount of float? (of course both would be the same material/resin)

No.

a) They are not the same size
b) they do not have the same shape
c) they do not have the same float

Ammy
08-07-2007, 03:56 PM
horray for AP joining in!

live2skim
08-07-2007, 04:01 PM
i meant that if they had equal dimensions they would have the same float right?(if they had the same amount of resin, foam and fiber)
and could you possibly give us a comparison of the two?

Aaron Peluso
08-07-2007, 04:01 PM
but i've heard that grapes turn faster than exiles. most likely because of the sharper rails on them. so I would think that a grape has alot of advantages on an exile right? because it has more float, light and sharper rails.

what size grape turns faster than what size/thickness/rocker exile? what you have heard is almost certainly wrong. I will make you and XS 5/8" "exile" that turns faster than your grape. Of course, so what. So what is that you cant compare a brand like that...

"zap turns faste than vic"

wtf? that doeesnt even make any sense. Its not even a complete thought.

we strive to make our rails perfect, not the sharpest, whatever that means.

Sharp does not equal good.

Aaron Peluso
08-07-2007, 04:04 PM
i meant that if they had equal dimensions they would have the same float right?(if they had the same amount of resin, foam and fiber)
and could you possibly give us a comparison of the two?

there is no same in skimboards. similar yes.

but you are obviously concentrating on length, and naming conventions. Both of which are mistakes.

compare board width. Maybe an exile hybrid lg is smaller than a grape lg. (a little) So, get an XL. So what?

Or compare and Exile Pro Lg 3/4 as it is the more similar board anyway.

Or just call up exile and tell steve where you ride how much you weigh and how good you are, then give him a credit card number and wait or your board to arrive. Since it sounds like you are probably going to blow it on your own...

Ammy
08-07-2007, 04:05 PM
it means nasty cuts when the board hits you on the head or in the shins.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 04:05 PM
what size grape turns faster than what size/thickness/rocker exile? what you have heard is almost certainly wrong. I will make you and XS 5/8" "exile" that turns faster than your grape. Of course, so what. So what is that you cant compare a brand like that...

"zap turns faste than vic"

wtf? that doeesnt even make any sense. Its not even a complete thought.

we strive to make our rails perfect, not the sharpest, whatever that means.

Sharp does not equal good.

I'm just telling you what i've heard from other people on the mb's.

Aaron Peluso
08-07-2007, 04:08 PM
well, I am telling you the truth.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 04:11 PM
well i was planning on getting a L 3/4" Pro shape from you guys, but I want to make sure that thats the best board for me.

and by sharper rails, i meant sharper rails.lol, because if the rail of the board is rounded off, compared to one that is sharp(a sharp rail meaning that the rail is more towards a 90 degree angle were it connects to the bottom of the board)

Aaron Peluso
08-07-2007, 04:13 PM
thats called a boxy rail, and thats what exiles have. see what I mean by questioning your terminology?

if you want a consult on a board then call exile, email exile, or pm me.

easy.

(or do the same for whatever other company you want) asking a bunch of kids on a mb is only good to a point. most kids dont understand the finer points of board design. many pros dont.

live2skim
08-07-2007, 04:16 PM
ok, i sent a pm

skimsurfallday
08-07-2007, 06:38 PM
yeah you cant compare sizes from a vic to a slot [or any board to board] because they have different rails,noses,tails,materials, etc.